In general I mean. Let me first introduce myself, I'm new to the boards and this site. I read many (but certainly not all) of the articles and a bunch of reactions on this board and I'm pretty skeptic about all this. The main reason is the question to people who ain't getting a chick. The question asked to them is "Do you really try?!" and "You maybe try 4 girls a month"...and some people were even talking about 60 phone numbers in a week...bloody hell... That is just brute force trying to get a girl, that has nothing to do with being a Don Juan if you ask me. If you would be a Don Juan you could get many girls you want. Not try it on many of them, and just get a few. then you are just like anyone else, except for the difference that you try it very very often (desperate like often?). It even seems to be "player"-ish.
I understand (and it's logical) you never get alll the women...but like I said now...giving yourself the title "Don Juan", but trying so many girls that one of them has to like you, doesn't seem right either. Enlighten me!?
And do you really think 80% (?) of the women see getting into a relation is a game. Where the man has to be unreachable somehow? It could be, but I somehow doubt it. If a girl likes you and you like the girl...why play a game?
This isn't an attack to the site or anyone. I'm just very skeptic to all this. Alltough some tips are really usefull, and The DJ Bible (weeks 1 and 2) seem a good way to start up. I came to this site and read about all this because I'm such a "nice/shy guy" and don't get contact with girls easily, so I'll surely go try the first (and maybe all) weeks of the DJ bible.
P.s. I did not use the search, the reason for this is, because this is so general I would get a million of topics. If this has been already asked, please give me a link and I'll read over there and maybe ask a question there
Before I came to this site I didn't see 'it' as described on this site. Not at alll... But I surely need to relax in front of women, get into some kind of contact faster and see the first dates as just "fun times"... I met a girl in the supermarket (she works there) now...and we have had some contact, but I wanted to make sure this goes fine and all...but according to this site, that's the wrong approach. Don't expect ****, if she doesn't want you, get another...Weird, I have to think about that. But I surely need to get some action going on soon, because this takes over 2 months already and past month she was having vacation. So even when I'm skeptic about all of this, I'm asking some advise. What should I do? Let me give some more details. I know her from the supermarket where she works. I dunno the English word for it, but you have to put your groceries on the counter and you have to pay her for it. So she's been staring at me and smiling...and I got the frikking guts to talk to her (lol, really this was a biig step already). The next time I went to the supermarket, she literally turned 180 degrees on her chair and stared at me... I thought of this as a hint. Then we started chatting a bit, she indeed gave some personal information about her school situation and stuff...but because there were other people behind me, the conversations are pretty short. Then I saw her in town, sitting outside drinking with some guy. They weren't close to each other, or kissing or holding each other or whatever, so it could just be a friend. And after that, she was away from her work for 3 weeks (probably vacation). Now I saw her yesterday again at the supermarket, not at the counter, but filling the groceries in the store itself. I saw her, and she didn't saw me...I didn't do ****, got scared again (damn, while I finally broke the ice for myself...the ice "grew" back again in her vacation time). Now I'll see her again next week (someone gotta get groceries). Now, I want to hook up with her, I'm pretty positive I got her interest. What to do next time? Directly say something like "wanna go and have a drink sometimes?" and give her my number, so she has to call me or what? I don't really feel I'm focussing on her too much (like in the past maybe), because if she doesn't work out, hey too bad...It would be a bummer, but there are enough fishies in the sea. So that attitude is at least better than previous year. Getting less desperate eh?
Anyay, this topic is split in 2. First being critical on all this, second asking for advice...odd maybe, isn't it? Sorry, I can't help that, but being critical isn't a bad thing I guess. It could only convince me those theories are right, so I would believe more in it. (or if not...then we have a problem ). But I have to be less chicken**** if we are speaking of approaching women. That's for 100% sure and I'll certainly go read the articles which I believe in (eye contact articles, conversation articles, DJ bible first 2 weeks at least (didn't read the rest yet)).
Hmm Long post I guess, oh well...
I understand (and it's logical) you never get alll the women...but like I said now...giving yourself the title "Don Juan", but trying so many girls that one of them has to like you, doesn't seem right either. Enlighten me!?
And do you really think 80% (?) of the women see getting into a relation is a game. Where the man has to be unreachable somehow? It could be, but I somehow doubt it. If a girl likes you and you like the girl...why play a game?
This isn't an attack to the site or anyone. I'm just very skeptic to all this. Alltough some tips are really usefull, and The DJ Bible (weeks 1 and 2) seem a good way to start up. I came to this site and read about all this because I'm such a "nice/shy guy" and don't get contact with girls easily, so I'll surely go try the first (and maybe all) weeks of the DJ bible.
P.s. I did not use the search, the reason for this is, because this is so general I would get a million of topics. If this has been already asked, please give me a link and I'll read over there and maybe ask a question there
Before I came to this site I didn't see 'it' as described on this site. Not at alll... But I surely need to relax in front of women, get into some kind of contact faster and see the first dates as just "fun times"... I met a girl in the supermarket (she works there) now...and we have had some contact, but I wanted to make sure this goes fine and all...but according to this site, that's the wrong approach. Don't expect ****, if she doesn't want you, get another...Weird, I have to think about that. But I surely need to get some action going on soon, because this takes over 2 months already and past month she was having vacation. So even when I'm skeptic about all of this, I'm asking some advise. What should I do? Let me give some more details. I know her from the supermarket where she works. I dunno the English word for it, but you have to put your groceries on the counter and you have to pay her for it. So she's been staring at me and smiling...and I got the frikking guts to talk to her (lol, really this was a biig step already). The next time I went to the supermarket, she literally turned 180 degrees on her chair and stared at me... I thought of this as a hint. Then we started chatting a bit, she indeed gave some personal information about her school situation and stuff...but because there were other people behind me, the conversations are pretty short. Then I saw her in town, sitting outside drinking with some guy. They weren't close to each other, or kissing or holding each other or whatever, so it could just be a friend. And after that, she was away from her work for 3 weeks (probably vacation). Now I saw her yesterday again at the supermarket, not at the counter, but filling the groceries in the store itself. I saw her, and she didn't saw me...I didn't do ****, got scared again (damn, while I finally broke the ice for myself...the ice "grew" back again in her vacation time). Now I'll see her again next week (someone gotta get groceries). Now, I want to hook up with her, I'm pretty positive I got her interest. What to do next time? Directly say something like "wanna go and have a drink sometimes?" and give her my number, so she has to call me or what? I don't really feel I'm focussing on her too much (like in the past maybe), because if she doesn't work out, hey too bad...It would be a bummer, but there are enough fishies in the sea. So that attitude is at least better than previous year. Getting less desperate eh?
Anyay, this topic is split in 2. First being critical on all this, second asking for advice...odd maybe, isn't it? Sorry, I can't help that, but being critical isn't a bad thing I guess. It could only convince me those theories are right, so I would believe more in it. (or if not...then we have a problem ). But I have to be less chicken**** if we are speaking of approaching women. That's for 100% sure and I'll certainly go read the articles which I believe in (eye contact articles, conversation articles, DJ bible first 2 weeks at least (didn't read the rest yet)).
Hmm Long post I guess, oh well...