I am done with this game. I wanna go MGTOW

[Pandora]

You didn't do anything wrong, OP. We're men dealing with chicks in a messed up society.

You are right man. The society has totally messed up women. A little update is that she finally texted me back. I just told her that even though it was a one night stand i am down to see her again. She said that she had fun that night and we will hang out one day.

I no longer care about it tho. I was blowing this whole thing out of proportion. I know that any girl that rejects a guy after a ONS is essentially broken. First of all no totally sane girl fuc*s a guy within hours. I dont care what anyone on this forum says. Secondly the guy who calls her back after the ONS is the guy she should be with. He has shown that he isnt in it for just for sex ( and she is attracted to him physically). So not only did she find a guy that she is very physically attracted to, but she also found a guy willing to commit on some level??? Only broken chicks refuse that. I already started going on dates with other girls/ plates so im over it. Thanks for the support tho.

 

[Masculinity]

This ^ is the mentality and attitude that more men need to adopt.

I'm amazed at how quickly you had a 180 degree turn, OP. Well done.

 

[MatureDJ]

Maybe i am being too picky. Maybe i should just be with the 5.5/10s. They seem to act right. Idk guys

If you want to be happy for the rest of your life, never make a pretty woman your wife ...

 

[guru1000]

Maybe i am being too picky. Maybe i should just be with the 5.5/10s. They seem to act right. Idk guys

You are not being too picky, and YOU never settle. You are not a woman with an expiration date who loses her gestation window.

Life is about struggling and transcending, not acquiescing to life's low-hanging fruits and settling. This push and pull we call life is not a negotiation. You have terms. Your terms are unequivocal and non-negotiable.

News for some of you guys: If she is young and hot, this, alone, means nothing, if you have more value than she does. I currently have two 9s in their 20s (15 years or so my junior) who treat me like gold; that is, they will come over, clean, cook, massage, fvck, defer, and are sweet, giving, sharing, and considerate.

Hotness <> Poor Behavior

Poor Behavior = (Your Value < Her Value)

We always come to the same conclusion over the years (and this conclusion is steadfast as it's based in truth), which is, if you want hot women to fully defer to you, worship, and treat you like gold, then improve your value to the extent that your value clearly exceeds her.

 

[SteR]

Life is about struggling and transcending, not acquiescing to life's low-hanging fruits and settling.

QFT

 

[Solomon]

There is A LOT of truth to this. Makes me realise I did pretty well to keep my ex around for 3/4 years. Ironically we actually started dating when she was 19 and split when she was 23. As crazy as she was, some of that would have been down to being drunk on the millions of option she became increasingly aware of, as her social circle expanded and the power she had over other men became more apparent to her.

The ONLY way you can win with these women is to LOVE something else outside of chasing females. And preferably something which is in your direct sphere of influence. Right now I'm truly focused on my career and achieving my goals around self development and financial freedom. Honestly couldn't give a sh*t about the women im banging or trying to sleep with. And taking this approach sets you free. I'm far more content than I was when I set finding that unicorn as a legitimate goal. Women can never be the ends. Poon King was right. They are principally for sex and entertainment. Anything else is a bonus.

QFT

Nothing to add love this

 

[Pandora]

So just an update to this post in case anyone cared. I did manage to smash this girl again. I had to be somewhat of a clown over text. I basically mixed clown game with no texting her for a while. It worked. I get the feeling that she is a huge slut though. I met up with her at a bar and she just had this thousand co*k stare whenever she talked to guys. She was way too interested in any guy that was talking to her. It was weird. At this point i dont care if i see her a third time. I already have gone through a transformation. I am so focused on my personal goals that i can care less about whether or not any particular girl texts me back after sex. Pain is the best motivator for change. It is only through emotional turmoil that we transform our pysche. For some reason this girl not texting me back after i did everything right caused me emotional distress ( go figure). Btw thanks for all the good advice guys. The support we give each other is what makes this place unique.

 

[Pandora]

. Right now I'm truly focused on my career and achieving my goals around self development and financial freedom. Honestly couldn't give a sh*t about the women im banging or trying to sleep with. And taking this approach sets you free. I'm far more content than I was when I set finding that unicorn as a legitimate goal. Women can never be the ends. Poon King was right. They are principally for sex and entertainment. Anything else is a bonus.

I am also trying to set up a business. I noticed the EXACT same thing. Its crazy how when you are obsessed with a financial goal the stupid things women do dont even register on your radar. Paradoxically this when they are most attracted to you. On a subconscious level women can sense when you have nothing else going on. This turns them off. This may be an evolutionary filtering mechanism against loser guys.

My sister said something the other day that was interesting. She is dating this really nice guy that is in his mid twenties and makes 6 figures. He has his sh*t together. Problem is that he texts her almost every morning saying all this lovey dovey stuff. He is also all about her. She said " why would i want to be with someone that likes me this much but then i snapped to my senses". I am paraphrasing off course i cant remember the exact qoute but that is pretty close. I found that interesting. Women need to be secondary to a main goal. Its not fair to them and its not fair to you to put them first. My sister is relatively emotionally healthy and even she is turned off by that behavior.

 

[ChristopherColumbus]

So just an update to this post in case anyone cared. I did manage to smash this girl again. I had to be somewhat of a clown over text. I basically mixed clown game with no texting her for a while. It worked. I get the feeling that she is a huge slut though. I met up with her at a bar and she just had this thousand co*k stare whenever she talked to guys. She was way too interested in any guy that was talking to her. It was weird. At this point i dont care if i see her a third time. I already have gone through a transformation. I am so focused on my personal goals that i can care less about whether or not any particular girl texts me back after sex. Pain is the best motivator for change. It is only through emotional turmoil that we transform our pysche. For some reason this girl not texting me back after i did everything right caused me emotional distress ( go figure). Btw thanks for all the good advice guys. The support we give each other is what makes this place unique.

Sounds like you're graduated from quantity to quality. good luck~~

 

[Fruitbat]

Is getting laid in bars a massive achievement of "game"?

I could and still can do this if and when I am at a decent weight and well dressed. It really isn't difficult, but I have never had an issue with things to say to engage drunk women, it's a piece of cake if they like you physically.

I am currently fat and all the game in world doesn't get me laid in bars....hmmm, How important is game?

I could shed 20 pounds and pack on a 6 pack and a vest and walk around bars going "durrrr. Hewwwow? You have nwice hair and I like monster trucks" and you will get laid more than an average guy with impeccible social skills and "game".

If there is an undecipherable level of game which I do not know, maybe I am ignorant. Perhaps there are tubby 40 somethings who are scoring porn stars regularly due to magic words. I doubt it.

Perhaps being a little arrogant and aloof is all game is.

 

[Roober]

Basing your decisions off a bar girl that slept with you the night you met her? Look at the situation, look at yourself, and do better next time.

Great job on the lay!

 

[glass half full]

Bars these days are best for someone who seeks either sex or validation. One and done is the general rule.
If you want a relationship, go to singles groups (another game of its own), or online dating. Or hit on chicks in pulic. Be at your best when you plan on doing this. Take some meds, be super confident. Other than that, it's the same old game. Her mind verses yours. Don't look at it that way.