HB8/9 playing games via text

[Leopold]

But I had sex with my gf within 15 minutes of meeting her, and (after extensive research) she turned out to be the best girl I've ever dated.

How the heck do you do that? Inst that coming too strong? O__o
You must be out of my league when it comes to escalating. Some tips would be appreciated.

 

[PrettyBoyAJ]

Damn, Dude. Get a day job. Why are you investing so much in this thrab. This girl is a jump-off. There ain't nothing worthy of a relationship with her. Relationship material girls don't do these things.

I can assure you that she's with the old/next dude while she is traveling. Your too dumb to realize this. You have been gaming for a while? What the hell is this. Are you making money from gaming chicks? You seem like a wack dude so your going to get wack females. Get your game up and the quality of woman that you deal with will also be beter.

and you believe her when she said she had 1 one night stand and one one week fling?? Any true player of the game would know what this means.

Had to quote myself because of this good ism.

 

[tomato]

This thread very much makes me doubt the above. Your calling 'her out' text was lame! I know you THINK she will stop because you called her out. But in reality what you really said was, "These games are driving me batty. Stop it please!" And what she thought was, "My gawd is he easy to F with. This is fun. I'm winning. And I'm not going to stop."

Seriously Tomato, if that's your real name , if you are going to post here, at least try and listen and stop defending what clearly is not working. Learn.

Your words above are meaningless, if not harmful. Rather than call her out, stop texting her like a B!

In other words, if she knows it bothers you when she doesn't reply, SIMPLY stop texting. Remove that stupid power and game that YOU gave her. Use her no-responding, against her. It's simple really.

YES I like your post and your right here. Thanks.

Yes I think calling out can only work in special circumstances and if I dont back it up with ignoring her then it looks SUPER weak I agree. And now I see that calling out can coma across as being affected - I did frame it as me laughing at her attempts to game - seeing through the BS - that can work right? - maybe only in person - HOW DO YOU EVER CALL A GIRL OUT THEN?

SO:

She texts me this morning (3 messages together on whatsapp) I havent even read them yet because it tells her if I read them, the last one asks me how I am. She then tried calling me this afternoon! Of course I didnt pick up because I was in the library. SO now it gets interesting right?

How would you respond?
1. Stick with the NC and dont get back to her for at least 2 days then maybe give her a call, whatever she does? (i realise the potential massive benefits of this or even longer NC till she contacts again - she will think I am no longer interested and could chase - perfect frame for the cool holiday - everything could be SWEET)
2. I wait until she sends me one more text/call and then contact her? - seems like this could take a long while though - I think she will see it is a game and stop trying after the text/call shes already sent
4. Just not play any games and text/call her this evening or tomorrow and be cool and organise some fun stuff and make it short. - this is what I am leaning towards at the moment.......I was pretty ****y in my texts and she is being very nice in hers.

I'm going with calling as the pref method of contact when I do, it avoids any more misunderstandings because texting with this girl is a ***** - talking is better. What to say? just some cool relaxed social DHV's and maybe plan the cool trip? I was going to say I was considering going w someone else but maybewont now.

I did slip and send her a last text last night saying "haha *name *name* what are we going to do with you?" I wanted to send that as a final text to show I was just letting her go and couldn't be bothered anymore - I wasnt going to text or call her again after that but I realise it was essentially the 4th non-responded to text I sent so very stupid I know (thanks guys for trying to stop me - I'm acting stupidly because of the breakup at the moment). So the only issue with me not texting her back tonight is that I have been texting her once most evenings since she gave me a call - so if I now stop texting her its basically punishing her for contacting me? Also doesnt it come across as childish/moody and like I am playing games?

you see there is a little dilemma now - although my texts were ****y and non-questions whereas hers are probably all nice and asking me how I am....

 

[Johnnyventana]

so if I now stop texting her its basically punishing her for contacting me?

No, if you answer her straight up after all the unanswered from her, you are REWARDING that bad behavior. You are telling her that it is okay to ignore you because once she gets in the mood to respond, you immediately reward her for dissing you for many days in a row.

You can't talk her out of being a 4 year old. Take the text game away from her. Don't play into it. Make her think she went to far, that she f'd up. Then never again chase and chase and chase! She is able to manipulate you very easily, but only because you allow it, because you play into it.

Also doesnt it come across as childish/moody and like I am playing games?

No. her days of blanking you come off as childish. You not accepting it, comes off as a man, and strong. And not a teenager playing into her games. Also, she won't "get" the lesson you are trying to teach her through your "good behavior." She will only change when her technique stops getting to you. She's enjoying this! Are you?

 

[tomato]

No, if you answer her straight up after all the unanswered from her, you are REWARDING that bad behavior. You are telling her that it is okay to ignore you because once she gets in the mood to respond, you immediately reward her for dissing you for many days in a row.

You can't talk her out of being a 4 year old. Take the text game away from her. Don't play into it. Make her think she went to far, that she f'd up. Then never again chase and chase and chase! She is able to manipulate you very easily, but only because you allow it, because you play into it.



No. her days of blanking you come off as childish. You not accepting it, comes off as a man, and strong. And not a teenager playing into her games. Also, she won't "get" the lesson you are trying to teach her through your "good behavior." She will only change when her technique stops getting to you. She's enjoying this! Are you?

All agreed?

I havent texted her today! - I wont till the evening tomorrow and maybe if I have time I'll give her a quick call in the evening? If she sends me another text I might call her up sooner.... what you think?

 

[tomato]

thinking of waiting for her to try and make contact once more? - seems like best

 

[Pimp-sicle]

I once would agree with you. But I had sex with my gf within 15 minutes of meeting her, and (after extensive research) she turned out to be the best girl I've ever dated. Prettiest. Sexiest. Least jaded. Most honest. Sweetest. Best reputation. A man should sleep with a woman as quickly as possible. It's for psychological reasons. Once she has sex she goes from focusing on your flaws to focusing on your strengths. 4 months later, even though she's way too pretty for me, she is stalking me.

This is the exception bro. I agree that we should phuck a girl as quickly as possible. But 9x outta 10 if a girl is THAT easy to lay, she's most likely not relationship quality.

Every situation is different and a lot of 'ho's are becoming aware of what sleeping with a guy too soon might lead him to believe so they hold out; but the bottom line here is if she's a 'ho you will know.





PIMP

 

[tomato]

This is the exception bro. I agree that we should phuck a girl as quickly as possible. But 9x outta 10 if a girl is THAT easy to lay, she's most likely not relationship quality.

Every situation is different and a lot of 'ho's are becoming aware of what sleeping with a guy too soon might lead him to believe so they hold out; but the bottom line here is if she's a 'ho you will know.





PIMP

how would you all respond to her text/call - ive ignored it all so far

 

[bigneil]

This is the exception bro. I agree that we should phuck a girl as quickly as possible. But 9x outta 10 if a girl is THAT easy to lay, she's most likely not relationship quality.

PIMP

That is absolutely true. But after a certain amount of time, you have to just say they are a good girl.

The key was not being jealous of her work, not being jealous when I learned about her high school boyfriend on Facebook, and especially my periodically going NC for 10 days (after a great date). Are you dating a new dream girl now? Try to see them once every 2 weeks for the first 3 months. Don't take the sex seriously until THEY do. Let them talk about feelings and commitments.

 

[bigneil]

How the heck do you do that? Inst that coming too strong? Some tips would be appreciated.

Her: "Do you want to hang out?"
Me: "Yes."
Her: "Where?"
Me: "Outside" (leading her by the hand).

I then looked in her eyes and read her body language. Her pupils were so big here bright blue eyes looked black. I said "are you ovulating?" and she said "WHAT?" Then I said "You're either extremely attracted to me, or you're on prescription antidepressants." and she said "I don't take ANY pills!". Then I stepped back and said "No, your arms are crossed. That's bad body language." and she said "I'm COLD!" so I offered her my coat.

 

[MM92]

Your girlfriend is a stripper, had sex with you 15 minutes of meeting but "she turned out to be the best girl I've ever dated. Prettiest. Sexiest. Least jaded. Most honest. Sweetest. Best reputation."

You cannot be serious? lmao

 

[bigneil]

A beauty is a beauty and if they love you they love you. That's the hard part - getting one to love you.

 

[MM92]

Oh fairplay then mate. Definitely doesn't seem like the type to be a stripper with what you're saying. Knowing she was a stripper and was willing to have sex with me so soon wouldn't make me want to make her my girlfriend, but each to their own I guess. As long as you're happy and in total control then that's the main thing, I guess.

 

[tomato]

lol - some input on the above developments would be good? help me out here guys!

how would you guys play it?

I havent sent her anything - tomorrow it will be two days - she hasnt sent/called since yesterday.

This could either be a game or genuinely low interest for some reason (despite it being HIGH when she left - but she seems very very quick to change her mood - she admitted to me she has "fallen (in love) with me already"!!! thats after essentially 2 weeks of seeing each other - presumably the same could happen with her ex or a random dude on holiday or the just reverse on its own?).....

either way - do I call her tomorrow to respond to her texts/call two days late or continue waiting till she trys to make contact again (my original plan - make her try more than once)

 

[PrettyBoyAJ]

You ask more questions then a little kid. Read game and apply it. We already told you what you need to do.

 

[Johnnyventana]

LOL

You ask more questions then a little kid. Read game and apply it. We already told you what you need to do.

Tomato dude. isn't she coming home in like a week? How about letting her enjoy her vacation and you go find something to do?!? Seriously! I'm reminded of a 15 year old when I see this. Chill's...

Had you originally done the above, you wouldn't be in this mess.

It's never too late to start, hopefully. Just let it be until she gets home. Period. Now go and find something, anything, other than texting her, to do.

 

[Viagra4Soul]

Have you read Neil Strauss' "The Game"? Do yourself a favour with all this down-time, leave this chick alone, and go read the whole thing cover to cover. You'll learn a lot about her, and yourself, and 5% of it might actually help in this situation.

But you've got to learn about yourself first 'cause the only one screwing this up so far, is you.

 

[tomato]

Have you read Neil Strauss' "The Game"? Do yourself a favour with all this down-time, leave this chick alone, and go read the whole thing cover to cover. You'll learn a lot about her, and yourself, and 5% of it might actually help in this situation.

But you've got to learn about yourself first 'cause the only one screwing this up so far, is you.

I've actually been to the pub with Neil Strauss and had a chat with him, read some of the book - more of mystery's stuff about 4 years ago. I might be acting like an AFC at the moment - but I can assure you there is little that is objectively average about me more generally - I think breakup from your first long LTR does that to the best of us. I haven't texted the new girl (above) she has contacted me so I think she deserves a response at some point - till today I haven't been able to think - now I'm finally getting started on some work.

Yes she is back soon - i'm not sweating it anymore no worry - just wanted to hear what you guys would do. Thanks

see my other thread for whats happend!

http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=192004