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Getting tired of dealing with women

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I like this post. I seems the healthiest. Trying to find a LTR as a goal is rather ignorant of the environment.
There’s nothing there for you.
Most missed this key point I tossed as bait:

guru1000 said:
Show your boundaries through abandonment.
When one is too worried about retaining (women), they have already lost; ergo OP's results.

Solid frame is built through dismissal until she proves otherwise. IF she is not working for you, she loses you.

The woman must invest more than the man for a solid frame to manifest. This is what nature dictates. She chooses by chasing. Her chasing can be covert or direct but YOU must test and she must come.
 
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Most missed this key point I tossed as bait:


When one is too worried about retaining (women), they have already lost; ergo OP's results.

Solid frame is built through dismissal until she proves otherwise. IF she is not working for you, she loses you.

The woman must invest more than the man for a solid frame to manifest. This is what nature dictates. She chooses by chasing. Her chasing can be covert or direct but YOU must test and she must come.
I believe this to be a truth. It is the only thing that makes sense.
The more you you try to hang onto something that more it moves away. The more you repel something the more likely it will persist.

I find this to be basic physics. Simplicity. Good post. I did catch that little tidbit.
 

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I´d like to settle down in a few years but all girls are crazy.
 

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I´d like to settle down in a few years but all girls are crazy.
I think that’s all we’re saying.. we are venting yes but some of us are very experienced with spinning plates and are tired of it. Constantly dating, jumping from one pvssy to the next. It’s the male equivalent of the female riding the c0ck carousel.

It gets old after a while.. some of us don’t like it or have outgrown it and like to discuss solid methods for overcoming the current power imbalance between men and women. And anyone who denies this exists is ignoring the reality of the situation.

Yes we can focus on ourselves.. self improvement through exercise, making more money, and developing new interests is important but as many of us have found doing these things doesn’t necessarily overcome the current bad state of dating opportunities for men - that of morally corrupt women who are promiscuous, cheaters, and often plagued with all sorts of mental disorders that sometimes take years to appear.
 
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I'll let you know another secret LA.

The current flavour of some men in SS towards women being mentally ill are actually unfounded prejudices from small minded men who are trying 2 make sense of something utterly inexplicable to them.

Would you now like me to tell you how ur future turns out ?
Another solid truth in this thread. We get exactly what we expect. Another example of the physical sciences at work. That which you fear and try to push away...persists.
A crazy girl magnet. How unfortunate.
 

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Yes we can focus on ourselves.. self improvement through exercise, making more money, and developing new interests is important...
It’s hard for me to grasp that a man who has a healthy exercise regime, diet, solid career, hobbies, and social spheres can be that boring to a woman over time that she begins to look elsewhere for attention and new dating interests. I thought many want to eventually settle down, start a family, get involved in interests beyond themselves: friends, family, community, volunteering/advocacy.

Why is social media/OLD so addictive to collect likes, followers, and DMs?

Why is it so important for others to worship her face and body?

Why is male validation so important that she can’t get that meaningful experience from herself (self-esteem), boyfriend/husband and that be enough to fulfill her emotional and physical needs? Or how about connecting with a higher (spiritual) power?

As a man, I chose to compete with myself... how am I better than I was yesterday? Am I living in integrity on a consistent daily basis following my mission and purpose in life?
 

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I´d like to settle down in a few years but all girls are crazy.
Its all part of the changes in our matrix. Perhaps masculinity adjusts and refuses to reward shytty behavior and penalizes men who still do so. Out of honor for life and manhood.
 

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Men reduced to reading Rollo 5 x a week, women 'empowered' to this 5 x a day.

I'm off for a roll down a playing field.
I just click your link. WTF is her deal?? She an escort?
 

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This. It's not the 19th century anymore, girls now have social media, OLD, porn, ever since they are pre-teens. Modern tech and social norms let them have literally as much sex as they feel like, at any time. By the time they're 18-19 they can already have dozens of men under their belts as I'm sure some of you guys here will have been told to your face personally... and you guys are talking about women in their 20s and 30s? lol. Baggage is inevitable.
I used to talk to a 19 year old a few months back.

She was a bag of red flags but I was curious on how many guys she slept with. She told me 11 different ones.

That number disgusted me. I don't think any reasonable female should be in, or anywhere near, double digits with a 1 in front of her age.
 

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It’s hard for me to grasp that a man who has a healthy exercise regime, diet, solid career, hobbies, and social spheres can be that boring to a woman over time that she begins to look elsewhere for attention and new dating interests. I thought many want to eventually settle down, start a family, get involved in interests beyond themselves: friends, family, community, volunteering/advocacy.

Why is social media/OLD so addictive to collect likes, followers, and DMs?

Why is it so important for others to worship her face and body?

Why is male validation so important that she can’t get that meaningful experience from herself (self-esteem), boyfriend/husband and that be enough to fulfill her emotional and physical needs? Or how about connecting with a higher (spiritual) power?

As a man, I chose to compete with myself... how am I better than I was yesterday? Am I living in integrity on a consistent daily basis following my mission and purpose in life?

Easy.. look at all the well built movie stars with good looks and big bank accounts whose marriages fail.

If you think Hollywood is the only place this happens, and small towns and big cities are immune to it then you’re living with your head in the sand.

It’s not that difficult to bang lots of hot girls once you have looks, money, status, game, hobbies, interests, social spheres etc.. but keeping a woman more than a few years has become a virtual impossibility. And what a lot of us are saying is that no amount of self improvement will change the fact that young women these days are promiscuous, cheating, and full of mental problems compounded by short attention spans and grass is greener syndrome made possible by feminism, the me too movement, and social media attention wh0ring (Snapchat, Instagram etc).

Go to the bb.com forums.. full of young decent looking men in excellent shape discussing thread after thread about how women are not sustainable in a relationship and full of mental disorders, especially the hotter ones. We probably complain even more about crazy bishes there than we do here.
 
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So we have those of us who complain......and those who complain about the complainers(thats you @Spaz)! And nobody has the answers! With all of the highly skilled seducers on here with lay counts into the hundreds you would think somebody would have the answers. You guys holding out?
 

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So we have those of us who complain......and those who complain about the complainers(thats you @Spaz)! And nobody has the answers! With all of the highly skilled seducers on here with lay counts into the hundreds you would think somebody would have the answers. You guys holding out?
So true. I’m not here to pretend to be something I’m not.. a gigantic lady killer who doesn’t care about a three or four year relationship failing. I’m tired of fvcking one pvssy after another not knowing who else the girl is banging and what kinds of diseases she’s exposing me to.

I’ve been a player and hated it. The lying, the cheating, constantly juggling a bunch of slvts and making up excuses as to why I couldn’t asnwer my phone on Tuesday night.

Also I find that when I’m in great shape yes the girls are hotter but they’re also far crazier.. when you have more money you also tend to attract more gold diggers who are getting better and better at hiding their true intentions.

If there’s any guys here who have been married to a hot woman for 10+ years here feel free to chime in with your wisdom I’m all ears.

I think we can all agree that women are tough to stay with for long periods of time. Some of us think they’re nuts, others accuse the men of being nuts. And that’s ok I’m sure we all have our own issues.. but the fact is no one is perfect and no matter how good looking, fit, or rich you are you will always have problems in these times.

I happen to think that has more to do with

1. Women’s options due to social media
2. Greater female economic independence
3. More encouragement to be “equal with men” and be proud slvts
4. Serious mental problems that have exploded in numbers, and not because they didn’t exist but because these days we have more doctors who can identify why certain women act as crazy as they do.
5. The explosion of polyamory and seeking arrangement-type sugar daddy sites.
 

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So we have those of us who complain......and those who complain about the complainers(thats you @Spaz)! And nobody has the answers! With all of the highly skilled seducers on here with lay counts into the hundreds you would think somebody would have the answers. You guys holding out?
Two recent examples:

Example One:
http://s682.photobucket.com/user/guru1000/media/IMG_6692_zpsoxvdru6d.png.html?sort=2&o=1

I'm in blue. Girl One tries to strong-arm our date plan with only places of her preference. She was testing me. So ... I test her right back. She fails. I walk away. She chases.

Example Two:

http://s682.photobucket.com/user/guru1000/media/IMG_6693_zpswfvegewn.png.html?sort=2&o=2
I'm in Blue. I cancelled plans with Girl Two because I was not in the mood to see her. Then I ignore her. She chases. She passes.

Women are easy. You just need to create space for strong desire to evolve. The best way to do this is by dismissing them when things are good (and dropping them if they try to act up) Because once you chase, the frame collapses and the relation is dead.

They must chase to make it work. This is key. When they stop chasing, create space. Should disrespect occur, it means you have not created space when it was demanded, and is often the prelude to the end.
 

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The downfall of man is the peddling of victimhood, and it's sad that it is literally taking over SS. Be a better man and you will attract better women. Regardless of what OP thinks (his ego), there are significant flaws in his character. If the ridiculous ego centric OP were factual, quality women would flock to him like white on rice on a sheet of paper in a snowstorm.

And let's be real... EVERYONE has issues, not just women. Most people are just too cowardly to admit it.
 
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Men reduced to reading Rollo 5 x a week, women 'empowered' to this 5 x a day.

I'm off for a roll down a playing field.
“She said don’t bother coming home. By the time you get here i’ll Be long gone.”
Two recent examples:

Example One:
http://s682.photobucket.com/user/guru1000/media/IMG_6692_zpsoxvdru6d.png.html?sort=2&o=1

I'm in blue. Girl One tries to strong-arm our date plan with only places of her preference. She was testing me. So ... I test her right back. She fails. I walk away. She chases.

Example Two:

http://s682.photobucket.com/user/guru1000/media/IMG_6693_zpswfvegewn.png.html?sort=2&o=2
I'm in Blue. I cancelled plans with Girl Two because I was not in the mood to see her. Then I ignore her. She chases. She passes.

Women are easy. You just need to create space for strong desire to evolve. The best way to do this is by dismissing them when things are good (and dropping them if they try to act up) Because once you chase, the frame collapses and the relation is dead.

They must chase to make it work. This is key. When they stop chasing, create space. Should disrespect occur, it means you have not created space when it was demanded, and is often the prelude to the end.
Oh that was gold. Lol
 

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The downfall of man is the peddling of victimhood, and it's sad that it is literally taking over SS. Be a better man and you will attract better women. Regardless of what OP thinks (his ego), there are significant flaws in his character. If the ridiculous ego centric OP were factual, quality women would flock to him like white on rice on a sheet of paper in a snowstorm.

And let's be real... EVERYONE has issues, not just women. Most people are just too cowardly to admit it.
Sometimes a ego need to not be protected but DISCARDED you can build a new one.
 

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So I'm still not understanding what the issue is? Are you guys complaining because you can't get laid? Or because you don't like playing the game? Or what? I don't get it
 
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