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azanon said:
Don't discard all other possibilities. At just 20 (you), its possible he actually makes it some other way and has fooled you so-far. I have a 4 year old myself. If i wanted him to believe I make money gambling, I could probably pull that off until he was 20 too.

azanon's rule #12; If it sounds too good to be true,........ it is.
I have been in the house when he was teaching business men to gamble (including the CEO of BP). He sits at home studying the form and sky racing all day. He goes to the track every weekend and brings home a massive wad of cash.
The only other way he could be making money is drug dealing. But he lives in a country town.
 

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I was a basketball follower at the time, but didn't know anything about betting, a damn shame really.

Bonhomme, do you bet regularly? or post on betting forums?
Actually, no. Thing is, I hate gambling. But I do think one who has a sufficient "war chest" could do very well if they targets their bets very carefully and/or bet underrated long shots systematically -- like a person I know who wins at the race track over the long haul. The race track winner usually loses, but wins big when he wins, so he ends up making about 3 for every 2 bet over the long haul. With enough zeros behind those numbers it can be pretty good :).

I don't see much in the upcoming college bowl games that's worth betting on, but if I were a systematic underdog bettor, I'd probably include Michigan State as a big underdog against Boston College who probably shouldn't be such a big underdog. Mich. State has tended to play up or down to their competition at whatever level (hell, they gave Ohio State a good scare), they create a lot of turnovers, and they're psyched to be in the bowl game, unlike a somewhat bummed BC.
 

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wolf, people would kill for a legit betting system, youre smart to keep a low profile on it. most consistent gamblers ive found spend all day finding lines to bet both sides and lock a small profit. of course, this is tedious and not very profitable, so its not much better than a low salary job, and there's always the risk of getting jobbed by an online bookie.

im surprised your dad hasnt been barred from the track yet, winning gamblers are like lepers.

im not a risktaker or particualrly talented, the only sport i cap is boxing. i plan to just surf lots of forums and copy whatever smarter people are doing, or look for plays that everyone seems to agree on. i know its lame

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Actually, no. Thing is, I hate gambling. But I do think one who has a sufficient "war chest" could do very well if they targets their bets very carefully and/or bet underrated long shots systematically -- like a person I know who wins at the race track over the long haul. The race track winner usually loses, but wins big when he wins, so he ends up making about 3 for every 2 bet over the long haul. With enough zeros behind those numbers it can be pretty good :).

I don't see much in the upcoming college bowl games that's worth betting on, but if I were a systematic underdog bettor, I'd probably include Michigan State as a big underdog against Boston College who probably shouldn't be such a big underdog. Mich. State has tended to play up or down to their competition at whatever level (hell, they gave Ohio State a good scare), they create a lot of turnovers, and they're psyched to be in the bowl game, unlike a somewhat bummed BC.

i dont know anything about track betting, but i can see the logic behind betting several dogs and having 1 winner covers all the losers and leave some profit. that happened to me this weekend on Craig Watson at +400 if you know who that is. still, there's always the chance that all the dogs lose... i dont have the stomach for it.

i dont know anything about college football but thanks for the tip lol. ill look into it.
 

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Actually, he gets into the track and members stand for free. I went with him once and he knows absolutely everyone. He was sitting with one of the the owners of the track.

It's not what you know, it's who you know.
 

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It's not lame, it's smart, 6-heads... as long as you don't go in with false confidence.

I checked the BoDog site, and it looks like the bookmakers and/or bettors are already hip to the Mich State vs. BC game. BC is only about a 3.5 point favorite. Oh, well.

If the Michigan vs. Florida game were not essentially a home game for Florida, I'd say watch out for Michigan, seeing as how they're likely to have their star players healthy for the first time since the 1st quarter of game 1. But given the away game status, I'd stay away from that game ... far away.

The race track fellow has a definite system. Conditions have to be right, and he sometimes doesn't bet at all ... and may bet at any big track, but always plays the big tracks, where the house spread tends to be smallest.

One of the best "gambling" plays I've heard of was a fellow who noticed a roulette wheel was unbalanced by more than the house spread. He did pretty well playing that wheel.

One could be good enough at blackjack to consistently win, seeing as how the dealer's hands are strategically tied. Then the main sticking point would be staying "under the radar" by playing different casinos and making sure you lose often enough not to be banned.
 
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it sounds good in theory, based on my own logic tonight i browsed several forums and made 8 plays in 3 sports. the first 2 won, the next 6 went 1-5. no sh!t. in retrospect i won all the plays where i had a big edge, and lost where i had a small edge. duh! what was i thinking?

gamblers are imagined as being suave guys in suits, smoking cigars, partying… the more i get into it, the more i realize the real gambler is a sweaty oaf sitting on his computer reading forums and searching for lines all day long. by the time you place your bets youl have a massive headache from staring at the screen. and some days you invest several hours and end up losing.

the more i dabble in gambling, the more suspicious i am of backbreaker’s story. no offense to him, it just seems highly romanticized. for most well-socialized people, you’re better off spending that free time making social networks and getting an education, then using connections to get a great stable career. unfortunately some people cant do that.

anyway…

youre right about finding a niche, finding an edge wherever it may be and exploiting as long as possible.

never played blackjack, im poor at math and concentration and couldn’t succeed as a counter. also hate traveling. im looking into online poker.



Bonhomme said:
It's not lame, it's smart, 6-heads... as long as you don't go in with false confidence.

I checked the BoDog site, and it looks like the bookmakers and/or bettors are already hip to the Mich State vs. BC game. BC is only about a 3.5 point favorite. Oh, well.

If the Michigan vs. Florida game were not essentially a home game for Florida, I'd say watch out for Michigan, seeing as how they're likely to have their star players healthy for the first time since the 1st quarter of game 1. But given the away game status, I'd stay away from that game ... far away.

The race track fellow has a definite system. Conditions have to be right, and he sometimes doesn't bet at all ... and may bet at any big track, but always plays the big tracks, where the house spread tends to be smallest.

One of the best "gambling" plays I've heard of was a fellow who noticed a roulette wheel was unbalanced by more than the house spread. He did pretty well playing that wheel.

One could be good enough at blackjack to consistently win, seeing as how the dealer's hands are strategically tied. Then the main sticking point would be staying "under the radar" by playing different casinos and making sure you lose often enough not to be banned.
 
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