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Im referring to racisme as in making monkey sounds to african players , italy has been alot in the medias the past year or so about how coloured players are treated over there.... i know there is racisme in other countries aswell .... but italy has had alot of "incidents" the past year or so....Adone said:
Im not talking about nationalism , im taking about Fascism wich is a political philosophy that combines elements of corporatism, authoritarianism, extreme nationalism, militarism, anti-rationalism, anti-anarchism, anti-communism and anti-liberalism.Adone said:
Another point i shouldnt have made , didnt mean anything special by it , just that groups of all white males usually will end up making remarks against other coloureds and so will all coloured males against whites , so will arabs against others a, so will chinese against other ethnicities.... its just how it is now a days.....Adone said:
i didnt say that materazzi said that i said that someone wrote that they think he said that... i cant read lips so i cant say what he said . but there are some speculations now that what he did say was "terrorist" and sicne zizou is a muslim he probably took it as very offencive...Adone said:
Im so disapointed in Zidane. how sad! Although the Euro should be great in a couple of years.That was Spain, not Italy. People from Real Sociedad making fun of Samuel Eto'o (Barcellona) with monkey sounds. In Italy, it happened just once, A LOT LESS than other countries, even England or France.Morphiex said:
Man, this is simply stereotypical. I'm not saying it doesn't happen. In some cities in the South it happens. But it's like saying that EVERY american is a redneck that fùcks his daughter and sister.Morphiex said:
Maybe I came across as focused on your grammar, but that wasn't my point. The thing is, I go to a board and I see someone posting bullshìt about my country saying that we are all related to "Fecisme", obviously I think he's just talking out of his narrow mind. I didn't know you weren't English/American.Morphiex said:
1. The car is called Maseratti, not Mazaratti.Morphiex said:
True, France were extremely good and Zizou should win the golden ball.CLOONEY said:
As I already said, Materazzi is an idiot and a provoker (google "Cirillo and materazzi"). Anyway Zidane is not really respectable. When he played in Juventus, he used to get pretty heated up very often. He got more relaxed in his 30s.CLOONEY said:
I don't care what that site says (every site is saying something different): Materazzi has NEVER insulted anyone's mother. You know why? Because his mother died when he was really young, so he doesn't appreciate remarks about people's parents neither makes them. He may have said everything, but nothing about Zidane's mother.Morphiex said:
Zizou has always been renowned to have his "snap" moments. However, generally, Zidane is recognised, especially by the players, as one of the greatest humans in world soccer, and a role model for everyone. He lives a very stable and good life, and is only ever kind to practically everyone he meets.Adone said:
Yes, but, as you say, he's always gotten snap moments, so it's pretty lame to say that he's so calm and relaxed that only a "bad guy" like Materazzi can get him heated up.CLOONEY said:
This in no way is a rebuttal to the argument that Italians are divers, and is in fact a "red herring".Adone said:
I never said Zidane was "so calm and relaxed that only a "bad guy" like Materazzi can get him heated up"............Adone said:
1st. Have you ever been hit to the chest? I've been hit once and the following day I could barely move. Now, Zidane's hit wasn't so hard, but hitting someone's chest is extremely dangerous.CLOONEY said:
