Bible_Belt
Master Don Juan
Good points made in this thread. Centaurian's instructor talking about dirty fighting sounds very realistic. There's no such thing as a fair fight. That's the difficulty of any street fight sitaution. You know if one of your friends was being put in a submission hold and screaming in pain you would probably not hesitate to clock someone over the back of the head to save a friend. So unless you are fighting someone who is completely alone, you only have the time it takes for a friend to deliver a kick to the head before ground skills lose the fight for you.
However, almost no ground surface is as forgiving as a wrestling mat. One good takedown or slam should break bones on pavement, then you can roll right off and look for the guy's friends. Coming from a wrestling background, I can say that it is ridiculously easy to take down people who have never grappled or learned bjj. Having said that, you never know someone's background, and if he knows how to wrestle, too, then any weight advantage he has starts to become a big deal. I would never pick a fight with someone who had 50 pounds on me, and if forced into one, boy would I fight dirty! My big bully of a neighbor got in my face once about my dog scaring his wife. He weighs about double what I do. I was so mad I got right back into his face and I was ready to fight with that guy. But the idea of throwing a punch would have been just stupid, like punching a cow. The cow would just look at you. I was going to climb up this redneck's overalls, bite him on the nose just like Centaurian's instructor teaches, choke him, and maybe hit him in the head with a rock if all of that didn't work. But it did not come to that, because that guy saw it all in my eyes. After getting up in my face, he started to be the one backing away. I could see him thinking, "Holy Sh!t, this kid's not scared of my giant fat ass. He's crazy!" Maybe no one has ever stood up to him. But I think that is another real-life application of fighting skills. Even when you don't actually fight, you don't let yourself get pushed around or bullied.
However, almost no ground surface is as forgiving as a wrestling mat. One good takedown or slam should break bones on pavement, then you can roll right off and look for the guy's friends. Coming from a wrestling background, I can say that it is ridiculously easy to take down people who have never grappled or learned bjj. Having said that, you never know someone's background, and if he knows how to wrestle, too, then any weight advantage he has starts to become a big deal. I would never pick a fight with someone who had 50 pounds on me, and if forced into one, boy would I fight dirty! My big bully of a neighbor got in my face once about my dog scaring his wife. He weighs about double what I do. I was so mad I got right back into his face and I was ready to fight with that guy. But the idea of throwing a punch would have been just stupid, like punching a cow. The cow would just look at you. I was going to climb up this redneck's overalls, bite him on the nose just like Centaurian's instructor teaches, choke him, and maybe hit him in the head with a rock if all of that didn't work. But it did not come to that, because that guy saw it all in my eyes. After getting up in my face, he started to be the one backing away. I could see him thinking, "Holy Sh!t, this kid's not scared of my giant fat ass. He's crazy!" Maybe no one has ever stood up to him. But I think that is another real-life application of fighting skills. Even when you don't actually fight, you don't let yourself get pushed around or bullied.
