3 Muslim American students gunned down in NC

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Jaylan said:
Read the following link.
http://atheism.about.com/od/atheismmyths/p/AtheismKills.htm
Sounds like you havent paid attention to the reports of this guys social media posts. Dude seemed to have a real big problem with religious folk. And thats part of why the feds have gotten involved.
He also has confronted the victims before for loud noises and parking issues. He even threatened with a gun before. His anti-religious nonsense hasn't, from what I've seen, included violence however. He also seemed more focused on Christianity than Islam which considering his presence in the Bible Belt makes sense.

People are wishing and hoping for this to be an anti-Muslim hate crime need to back up and think about what they are doing. Yes, it would help them score points in the meta argument against "the right" but it could also cause reprisals and more hate crimes and on and on. That's a big price to pay for you to have more ammunition to make witty comments about rednecks on Twitter.

I do hope the family finds some semblance of peace from this mess though.
 

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If you shoot someone over a parking space that's just a 'normal' crime. But if you so much dislike a muslim colonizer because of their belief's 1300 year and counting track record, then that's extra special bad. That's essentially how liberals think.
 

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Stagger Lee said:
If you shoot someone over a parking space that's just a 'normal' crime. But if you so much dislike a muslim colonizer because of their belief's 1300 year and counting track record, then that's extra special bad. That's essentially how liberals think.
I didnt know innocent dental students who happen to be Muslims were "colonizers". What big bad colonizers these kids were, with their exemplary grades and model citizen behavior. What a big bad colonizer, going abroad to give less fortunate people much needed dental care.

Thanks for cluing us in.
 

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This was a man who had run ins with most everyone in his building. Does that mean he hated white people?
 

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Jaylan said:
Most Americans don't want Arab muslims here (or wouldn't if the government and media reported what this people are doing). But the government enforces its own multicultural schemes against the public will. If say white Catholics started rushing into Syria, Saudi Arabia etc, wearing crosses or such identifying themselves as Catholic constantly in public like the towel headed arab women do, going to universities and popping out babies, I'd call it colonizing too. Of course this would never be allowed and the Christians would be oppressed and killed there.

You most likely believe Amerindians were in their right to fight against European Colonizers in the Americas, yet you cry crocodile tears that someone shoots a new age colonizer over a parking space.

What's really offensive is how muslims are using the black civil rights activist playbook over this. Demanding hate crime classification? Over 5,000 arabs showed up at the funerals? Vigils at various college campuses?

Here's some stories you should be riled up about that actually were downplayed or hidden by the media, but you aren't:

http://conservative-headlines.com/2015/02/another-five-year-old-shot-by-a-gangbanger/
http://conservative-headlines.com/2015/02/perp-took-a-selfie-with-his-murder-victim-and-posted-it-on-snapchat/

http://conservative-headlines.com/2014/12/mother-and-her-two-kids-killed-in-garland-maine/
 
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http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/chapel-hill-shooting-craig-hicks-watched-shooting-rampage-film-falling-down-obsessively-1487769

While families of the victims have contended that the killings were a hate crime, Hicks's wife Karen, said in a press conference that the shooting had "nothing to do with religion or the victims' faith" and everything to do with her husband's confrontations in the neighbourhood.

Robert Maitland, a lawyer for Mrs Hicks, who is filing for divorce from her husband, also refuted the notion that Hicks was anti-Muslim, suggesting that the shooting was more likely to be linked to mental issues.

"Obviously it's not within the range of normal behaviour for someone to shoot three people over parking issues," Mr Maitland said.

Police have not found any inflammatory or anti-Muslim material on his computer.
 

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http://www.barenakedislam.com/2015/02/12/well-well-looks-like-one-of-the-so-called-innocent-muslim-students-who-was-gunned-down-had-some-very-pro-islamic-terrorism-leanings-himself/

So we see the not so innocent mentally of one of the muslim students. He was pro-Islamic like most all of them are. I'm betting these muslims were arrogant jerks to this crazy liberal guy Hicks and there was a dispute preceding the shooting.

The father of the two females is a leader in a mosque raided by the FBI for a plot to kill marines in Quantico VA http://gotnews.com/breaking-chapelhillshooting-victims-father-leader-mosque-raided-plot-kill-marines/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=breaking-chapelhillshooting-victims-father-leader-mosque-raided-plot-kill-marines.

Meanwhile muslims in America and world wide are calling the shooting a "hate crime" and even a terrorist act http://news.yahoo.com/muslim-world-asks-were-chapel-hill-shootings-act-164533589.html. What they're really trying to do is make muslims a special protected class so everyone will think twice about resisting islamization of America all together. For example, when muslims kill it's just "work place violence" but when anyone kills a muslim it's considered a 'hate crime'.

Truth is America is better off with all the parties involved here gone or imprisoned in the case of the nutty liberal Hicks.

Of course no one is asking if it was a hate crime here http://denver.cbslocal.com/2015/02/12/father-to-be-brutally-attacked-fighting-for-life/ and the president isn't commenting. The media is calling the latinos' knife attack an "argument".
 
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Where oh Where are the Muslim crowds as the muslim terrorist are beheading Americans. However, but when 3 of their are gunned down they come out from all over. What does this tell you about the likes of the Muslim people?? Have not heard the "hate crime" mentioned when they burned alive a fighter pilot. Sorry to say muslims are in America to enforce their own laws and don't much care for the law of the land they came to. Maybe it is time to send them back from where they came if they can not assimilate with America.

Right out of the box we hear "This is a Hate Crime" without any of the media doubting it but Fort Hood was "Workplace Violence". This guy is an Atheist can you imagine what the press would do if he was a Christian, Republican or even worse a Tea Party Member? "A reflection of wider anti-Muslim hostility?" Our country has been pretty frigging understanding considering the lack of response by "moderate Muslims" to what has been perpetrated against Westerners and Christians in the middle east. At some point there is going to be a major backlash if Muslims don't start checking their own extremists. Eventually Americans are going to get fed up with the minority of "Hate America First" Americans that enjoy the benefit of constant media support.

Meanwhile the "religion of peace" strike again, this time in Denmark.

A radical Muslim kills people who doesn't follow their rules. A moderate Muslim celebrates these acts, by firing their weapons in the air and give their children candy. A peaceful Muslim does nothing, says nothing and defends these actions.
 

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Stagger Lee said:
If say white Catholics started rushing into Syria, Saudi Arabia etc, wearing crosses or such identifying themselves as Catholic constantly in public like the towel headed arab women do

You do realize Christian/Catholic women are supposed to cover their head as well?
 

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SeymourCake said:
You do realize Christian/Catholic women are supposed to cover their head as well?
It's not required today. Only very traditional sisters/nuns will cover up their hair. Plenty don't though.

Years ago, some (non-clergy) women would wear hats to church. Today, it's pretty rare. It's a very old tradition that died out.
 

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African American is when the person is American and from African. Muslim American is where they are American but from Muslim. Oh yes I know my countries and contitents. :moon:
 

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Mike32ct said:
It's not required today. Only very traditional sisters/nuns will cover up their hair. Plenty don't though.

Years ago, some (non-clergy) women would wear hats to church. Today, it's pretty rare. It's a very old tradition that died out.

Tradition does not bypass what is written in the Bible. If thievery became the norm, then we cannot say the old tradition of refraining from stealing is a tradition that is died out. There are plenty of non-nuns who cover their head today.

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1 Corinthians 11:6
King James Bible
For if the woman be not covered, let her also be shorn: but if it be a shame for a woman to be shorn or shaven, let her be covered.

If it's written in the bible, then it is set in stone. Tradition cannot bypass what is written in the bible.
 

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SeymourCake said:
Tradition does not bypass what is written in the Bible. If thievery became the norm, then we cannot say the old tradition of refraining from stealing is a tradition that is died out. There are plenty of non-nuns who cover their head today.

http://i.ytimg.com/vi/N2A48DE-dmM/hqdefault.jpg
http://theorthodoxlife.files.wordpress.com/2014/02/little_russian_girl_orthodox.jpg
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-12f9WXDx0YM/T4KXjqh0iZI/AAAAAAAADV8/ONFfWUVCMhI/s1600/mantillas.jpg
https://rosamulher.files.wordpress.com/2011/02/veu-na-missa.jpg
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1 Corinthians 11:6
King James Bible
For if the woman be not covered, let her also be shorn: but if it be a shame for a woman to be shorn or shaven, let her be covered.

If it's written in the bible, then it is set in stone. Tradition cannot bypass what is written in the bible.
Fair enough, but if a Christian lady doesn't cover up, at least she won't get attacked or threatened by other Christians.
 

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Mike32ct said:
Fair enough, but if a Christian lady doesn't cover up, at least she won't get attacked or threatened by other Christians.

That's only because there's no law in Christianity that is equivalent to Sharia Law.

I've known a Pakistani Muslim girl that went to my college who decided one day that she will stop wearing the hijab, and people still accepted her. It depends where you are in this world due to societal norms.
 

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SeymourCake said:
Tradition does not bypass what is written in the Bible. If thievery became the norm, then we cannot say the old tradition of refraining from stealing is a tradition that is died out. There are plenty of non-nuns who cover their head today.

http://i.ytimg.com/vi/N2A48DE-dmM/hqdefault.jpg
http://theorthodoxlife.files.wordpress.com/2014/02/little_russian_girl_orthodox.jpg
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-12f9WXDx0YM/T4KXjqh0iZI/AAAAAAAADV8/ONFfWUVCMhI/s1600/mantillas.jpg
https://rosamulher.files.wordpress.com/2011/02/veu-na-missa.jpg
http://www.donaldkirk.com/images/pyongyang_catholic_church_service.JPG
http://www.lauramcalister.com/wp-co...a9bc335f66d8d229d5cef434b01b9e921-600x399.jpg

1 Corinthians 11:6
King James Bible
For if the woman be not covered, let her also be shorn: but if it be a shame for a woman to be shorn or shaven, let her be covered.

If it's written in the bible, then it is set in stone. Tradition cannot bypass what is written in the bible.
I don't know what you're going on about. I don't care if someone chooses to cover their head. It goes way beyond that.

Most christians don't interpret the bible that way, and faith and traditions to follow are decided voluntarily. This was a letter addressing issues in a specific church at a specific time in Corinth. That's why there are 100's of millions of Christians in the Americas and around the world who do not and never have covered their head. Christians don't agree on interpretation, that's why you have Catholics, protestants and many denominations. Christians only agree on things attributed to what jesus said, like 'love your neighbor as yourself'. That pretty much covers things like not stealing and not beheading people.
 

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That's only because there's no law in Christianity that is equivalent to Sharia Law.

I've known a Pakistani Muslim girl that went to my college who decided one day that she will stop wearing the hijab, and people still accepted her. It depends where you are in this world due to societal norms.
That's the whole point. In Christianity and America unlike most muslim countries there's no sharia law, and you can do what you want. I'd like to keep it that way by keeping muslims out.
 

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For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.
most Christians don't even know that false christs, is talking about modern day Christians

they think it's talking about guys in the future who will walk around and literally say their jesus Christ.

they don't know that verse is talking about modern day pastors and modern day Christians.

The people who only want to be Christians on sunday morning, but live another way during the rest of the week
 

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True, Obama is a poster boy for that. He calls himself a Christian but attended Rev. Wright's church, then compares the crusades (that fought muslim encroachment on the west) and western culture to ISIS, has made many statements derogatory toward christians and America, and caters to muslims as if he is one.

There are certainly others, but he is in a position to do the most damage.
 
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