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just to add to the conversation, the point is not to really create a checklist; we all do low value things. certainly i have made numerous 'fouls', i am for sure positive that guys that actually got women **** up on a grand scale one way or another. the other day i was smelling like donkey...

this is what i like to call girl's being demons. every girl is a bit of a demon. they create their own subworlds with their master for unknown reasons of just causes. this would bother the **** out of me, so what would i do? I would go head n become a demon myself creating bigger subworlds...

i'd say well done. u found urself a villain.

thats why i don't really care too much about exactly what they say, rather the means of it. if you can tell that she has low interest then there's not much to keep the courtship going or something. when you believe in yourself then how can it be very hard to make anything happen?

what is an emotional tampon? so if you make her your emotional tampon then i say problem solved. no crying to her though.

apologize for it immediately, imply other meaning while being serious ****y.

slower n steady wins the race..it's a very cruel tactic, I can say that I have used it before and she started to get a little shaken up by it from what i could tell...but eventualy I got laid.

the catch 22 is that there is no catch 22. there is no waste of time but it will eventually fall. let's say i were to buy a girl flowers. wel that may make her receptive to a date, make her blush, heavy IOI's... but if you're not man enough, if you lack a vision, then where will it lead?

just watch out for quick sudden jolts in different directions...that gives off the impression that u are easily distracted therefore causing a loss of attraction. i actually learned that when u pass by them and don't even look at them, they are very bothered by it, idk..maybe turn that into one...

kind of a crossover between the two. assertive in being a boring beta. i would look at girls and he would tell me to "look not touch"...at the same time he did go through a lot of effort in trying to win women over through excess cologne, driving a porsche.. he had boxes stacked with porno...

the same thing happened to me almost. I was waiting in line and amidst the crowd there was this blonde chick that I noticed, she could have been a model but she was a bit more petite. After realizing that i didn't really have to wait in line, i walked up to the bar only to notice that she was...

way too contrived man lol.. don't come off as a seducer in the beginning, he's right. the beginning of the interaction usually fortells the quality of the whole interaction in my opinion. putting it off till 2 weeks to meet her after means she will put you off for 2 weeks after meeting you.

how perfect! now you can help her and her child through desperate times.

man these interpretations be taking a lotta effort. i thought "i'm pregnant" means "i want to continue the relationship and i'm afraid ur gona dump me"

lets take afc chumpness out of it. we all start from somewhere, i''d rather be a chump than a chimpanzee. every dog has its day too. as i started gaining experience i fell into this problem. I would answer their questions interestingly enough and stay charming only to see that they...

if u have a boyish face then u can't change it so why do u care so much?

haha. good point. we have to be perfect to get anything because we want goodness! we can cut a few corners here and there, such as money, friends, or lifestyle (i duno wtf that is, maybe the ability to go out and have fun?) but you want to plan things out a bit. have a few strengths in you. :)

your observations are correct for the most part. i can confrim from my experience that the longer, more quality relationships come mostly to me. so it would be wise to focus on putting together a decent lifestyle for yourself. lately i've been doing a bit of some charm, gotten a lot of numbers...

this law of power is true. hard to maintain if you are a guy of good intentions. when i moved into my new apt, my neighbor jumped into my room and began to try to start using my computer in an offer to help me connect the internet. i'm a generous guy at times so i decide to let him use it a...

good input guys. thanks. talked to a college girl tonight, felt like I understood her well. stopped getting depressed, learned that things take time.