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I am fully behind Colin Kapernick and am glad to see that mixed race people such as him, and Obama (who is also mixed race) is taking leadership in these issues and taking a stand. It must be that white part of them (just kidding). A whole movement is being started as other sports teams are following suit. Recent police shootings in Tulsa and North Carolina substantiate this cause. Look at what happened in Tusla. That was a clearly wanton shooting from that lady officer. The man's hands were in the air the whole time. Suspects in NYC for terrorism had their life spared while his was taken? Their lives had more value than his?

Police should not get paid leave whenever someone dies in custody or under their care. They should just get fired and charged with murder. Until that happens there is going to be issues. It is too long that videos are circulating where this type of stuff has been happening and nothing is really being done about it. I don't know how anyone can truly disagree with a simple and straightforward message like that. As far as the delivery of the message, there is no proper way to deliver a message like that because nobody wants to hear it. It's not a popular message to those who benefit from white supremacist system because it exposes people. That is what he choose, and that is what Veterans fought and died for. In fact, Veterans are just as liable as being racially profiled and shot by police for nonsense, as has probably happened before. That's a true insult to risk your life for the country and end up dead by the police in the country over nonsense.
Allow me to correct you on a few points...

There is a GIANT difference between Tulsa and Charlotte, and even NYC. Tulsa was a huge mistake. There is no real defending it, only ways to learn from it. Charlotte still has information coming out, but there isn't anything that is bad so far, other than people wanting free stuff apparently. For NYC, they did shoot the guy. Sometimes people die from gunshots, sometimes they don't.

So, let me get this straight...I'm a cop. I stopped you and arrested you because you were speeding down the road at 80 mph in a 35 mph zone, and you had 2 warrants. You've been cool, there was no physical issues or anything. On the way to jail, you have a heart attack and die. I should be fired and charged with murder because you are under my care and custody, right?

I'm a cop. I see you selling drugs on the street corner. As I go to approach you, you run. While running, you swallow your stash of cocaine and heroin before I catch up to you and I don't know about it. You still have other stuff on you and I arrest you. On the way to jail, you slump out and go comatose because the drugs just really hit your system. You die on the way to the hospital because of how much you ingested. I should be fired and charged with murder because you are under my care and custody, right?

Those two things happen a lot, across the country (and in other countries too.) There have been several "in custody" deaths in our agency during the past 2 years alone, from people having heart attacks and other medical issues, ranging from right after being in custody to while talking to the nurse at jail. Should all my coworkers be fired for someone having high blood pressure and the person stopped taking their medication 6 months ago?

As far as being fired and charged with murder ASAP, I guess cops don't get due process too, right?

If I see you standing on a street corner, should I just arrest you and charge you with various drug distribution charges, without seeing why you were there or what was going on? What about stopping you for speeding and you don't have your license with you? Should I just arrest you and charge you for not having a license, without seeing if you really did have it or left it at home?

Home burnt down? Must be you committing arson. Someone in your family died at your house? You must have killed them.
 

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Blacks do have access to jobs. I'm training for a nice little $50,000 a year corporate job For a fortune 100 company. There are 14 people in the class - 4 of them are black. Over the last 60 years, every corporation and university in the country has rolled out the red carpet for any minority who wants a job. Any black person not working is not applying himself.

And a tough job market is not an excuse to break the law, FYI.
There are Blacks who are unable to find work, or if they do find work are paid less than whites. That's why in 2016, the average earnings for White people are $ 25, and Blacks is $ 19. If you look around America, most impoverished areas are Black ghettos, while affluent suburbs are White. Since White-flight (i.e. White moving with their wealth as Blacks move into the area), the inner cities have closed or underfunded schools, libraries, and have less opportunity to succeed then in wealthy suburban areas. This leads to a de facto "economical" segregation.

These facts can be easily googled,and is observable that there are clear and obvious wealth disparities in America. You look at that and say everything is kosher with this.


BlueAlpha1 said:
Pointless statement.

Pointing to Problem B doesn't disprove the validity of Problem A. Only an anti-white bigot would bring up whites in a discussion that doesn't involve them.
Yeah, that's relevant to this discussion? You are making judgments, I'm stating facts.

BlueAlpha1 said:
Not true. I've heard vague, meaningless statements with no context like this before. Pseudo-academic black "intellectuals" try that all the time. There is no data to back it up. In fact, blacks commit 52% of murder and 38% of all violent crime. Their representation in the prison system is nearly perfectly proportionate to the amount of crimes they commit.
We both have access to google. I'm sure you can find that Blacks are arrested 4 times the rate of White people in terms of drug possession, when both have the same rates of this particular crime. You can't hide facts these days since you can just google them out so I'm not going to enter into a factual arguement here.

BlueAlpha1 said:
Moreover, police are more than twice as likely to shoot a white criminal than a black criminal. Blacks committed over 5,000 homicides last year, whites committed around 4,000. 326 whites were killed, 140 blacks. Police are far more hesitant to shoot a black person because they'll face a harder public consequence.
Again, people are free to go on google and either confirm what you are saying or disprove what you are saying. All I know is I heard my stats from CNN and alternative news channels like TYT. It's also on wikipedia.

Also you never mentioned which UNARMED group was killed. Here I'm dealing with NONSENSE shootings. Not legitimate shootings in self-defense because the officer's life was in danger or the other person was armed and could have shot the officer. If you say 326 ARMED whites were killed who posed a serious threat to police, and 140 UNARMED Blacks were wantonly killed by bored police wanting to squash a what they perceive is a ****roach , that sort of changes the story a bit, don't you think?

BlueAlpha1 said:
Nonsense. There is nothing called white supremacy. It's a tool used by some weak blacks and brainwashed whites. These individuals need racism to remain around so they can blame their failures on someone else.
You don't think so? Let me ask you a question:
As a white person:
1) Do you have to worry that if you surrender and follow the police officer's order that you'll end up dead.
2) Do you have to worry that if your car broke down you could end up dead by a police officer?
3) Do you have to worry that your 80 year old grandmother may be pepper-sprayed by cops for asking why they are inside her house?
4) Do you have to worry about being rejected by an escort when you have enough money to pay her?

Still think there is nothing called white supremacy?

Come on pal.
 
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Allow me to correct you on a few points...

There is a GIANT difference between Tulsa and Charlotte, and even NYC. Tulsa was a huge mistake. There is no real defending it, only ways to learn from it. Charlotte still has information coming out, but there isn't anything that is bad so far, other than people wanting free stuff apparently. For NYC, they did shoot the guy. Sometimes people die from gunshots, sometimes they don't.

So, let me get this straight...I'm a cop. I stopped you and arrested you because you were speeding down the road at 80 mph in a 35 mph zone, and you had 2 warrants. You've been cool, there was no physical issues or anything. On the way to jail, you have a heart attack and die. I should be fired and charged with murder because you are under my care and custody, right?

I'm a cop. I see you selling drugs on the street corner. As I go to approach you, you run. While running, you swallow your stash of cocaine and heroin before I catch up to you and I don't know about it. You still have other stuff on you and I arrest you. On the way to jail, you slump out and go comatose because the drugs just really hit your system. You die on the way to the hospital because of how much you ingested. I should be fired and charged with murder because you are under my care and custody, right?

Those two things happen a lot, across the country (and in other countries too.) There have been several "in custody" deaths in our agency during the past 2 years alone, from people having heart attacks and other medical issues, ranging from right after being in custody to while talking to the nurse at jail. Should all my coworkers be fired for someone having high blood pressure and the person stopped taking their medication 6 months ago?

As far as being fired and charged with murder ASAP, I guess cops don't get due process too, right?

If I see you standing on a street corner, should I just arrest you and charge you with various drug distribution charges, without seeing why you were there or what was going on? What about stopping you for speeding and you don't have your license with you? Should I just arrest you and charge you for not having a license, without seeing if you really did have it or left it at home?

Home burnt down? Must be you committing arson. Someone in your family died at your house? You must have killed them.
I wouldn't spend too much time trying to educate the dude. He just put his foot in his mouth and didn't even realize it. He was using the pseudo-intellectual double talk about how "blacks get arrested at 4x the rate of our white counterpart for the same crime". That BS sounds sophisticated so it flies with some low information readers with no critical thinking skills. But once he said ahhhhh just charge the pigs with murder! you realize you're dealing with someone whose tribalism trumps facts.
 

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That's a despicable comment and you should be ashamed of yourself. In your world Darren Wilson would have been "charged with murder" when all he did was defend himself from a thug and criminal who was trying to kill him.
There are differing accounts as to what happened there, but, sure. How many white people are dead because of police stopping them for jay-walking? The premise of why someone is stopped in the first place is a minor violation should not result in a dead person.

BlueAlpha1 said:
Well, other than black supremacists murdering police sniper-style based on lies.
Videos of police shooting innocent Blacks sometimes touches a nerve with someone who wants to settle the score if the DA's office can't.

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There is nothing called white supremacy. That's a buzzword used by the grievance industry to hustle people, and an excuse for weak people to excuse away failure.
I guess you never had drugs planted on you for some officer to meet their montly quota. Therefore you have the benefit of white priviledge.
 

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So, let me get this straight...I'm a cop. I stopped you and arrested you because you were speeding down the road at 80 mph in a 35 mph zone, and you had 2 warrants. You've been cool, there was no physical issues or anything. On the way to jail, you have a heart attack and die. I should be fired and charged with murder because you are under my care and custody, right?
That is not what I said. You are twisting what I'm saying out of context. More like a handcuffed man shot at blank range on the head so the officer can pass his initiation. That would be more accurate.

TheVirtualMind said:
I'm a cop. I see you selling drugs on the street corner. As I go to approach you, you run. While running, you swallow your stash of cocaine and heroin before I catch up to you and I don't know about it. You still have other stuff on you and I arrest you. On the way to jail, you slump out and go comatose because the drugs just really hit your system. You die on the way to the hospital because of how much you ingested. I should be fired and charged with murder because you are under my care and custody, right?
Again, not applicable. How about you stopped my car,you and your thug officers beat me up because you had nothing better to do and plant drugs in my car and then I wind up dead because of injuries and make up a false report to cover yourselves. See, that's applicable. Do you get that now?

TheVirutalMind said:
Those two things happen a lot, across the country (and in other countries too.) There have been several "in custody" deaths in our agency during the past 2 years alone, from people having heart attacks and other medical issues, ranging from right after being in custody to while talking to the nurse at jail. Should all my coworkers be fired for someone having high blood pressure and the person stopped taking their medication 6 months ago?
Again, very reasonable examples you are using. Maybe I didn't qualify what I said. How about intentional, wanton and sport and sadistical murders of people under police custody to satisfy their blood-lust and deluded beliefs of racial cleansing as being secret KKK members? Is that better qualifying?

TheVirtualMind said:
As far as being fired and charged with murder ASAP, I guess cops don't get due process too, right?
Their victims didn't, why should they? After all, they should be held to a higher standard then the rest of us since they are upholding the law. Not be above the law.
 
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There are Blacks who are unable to find work, or if they do find work are paid less than whites. That's why in 2016, the average earnings for White people are $ 25, and Blacks is $ 19.
It's rubbish. My class contains 14 people, 4 blacks. We all started with the EXACT same salary, even though I have two years experience in the industry and 3 of those 4 don't.

These facts can be easily googled,and is observable that there are clear and obvious wealth disparities in America. You look at that and say everything is kosher with this.
That's not proof.

Yeah, that's relevant to this discussion? You are making judgments, I'm stating facts.
They're not facts. When I ask you to substantiate, you tell me to Google it. I gave you hard numbers about crime - FBI statistics. You had no response other than your vague, nonsensical double-talk.

We both have access to google. I'm sure you can find that Blacks are arrested 4 times the rate of White people in terms of drug possession, when both have the same rates of this particular crime.
It's just simply not true. And repeating it over and over again won't make it true, no matter how many times you tell me to google it.

Again, people are free to go on google and either confirm what you are saying or disprove what you are saying. All I know is I heard my stats from CNN and alternative news channels like TYT.
CNN has been caught lying about the racial narrative dozens of times. Check out the quote mining with that ratchet girl in Milwaukee begging her friends to take it to the suburbs. CNN is yellow journalism and it is United States government propaganda that is bought by the Clintons and Obama to pump out DNC and George Soros talking points.

And you made a big mistake bringing up TYT. I'll give you one chance to withdraw that because if you want to talk about that network I'll eat you up like a bon bon. The CEO of that channel is an Armenian holocaust denier who named his show after the perpetrators of that holocaust. The Young Turks was an army within the Ottoman Empire who killed 1.5 million Armenians, and he celebrated it by naming his show after them. This is the equivalent of Neo-Nazi show called the "Hitler Youth" or the "Stalinists" He is financed by the Islamic dictatorship government in Qatar and Al Jazeera. He is also an anti-white racist who has done character assissinations on Sam Harris, Sarah Palin, D'inesh D'souza and others. Cenk Uygur is a radical communist who was fired from MSNBC OF ALL PLACES FOR BEING TOO FAR LEFT. The fact that you get your "news" from him explains everything.

Also you never mentioned which UNARMED group was killed. Here I'm dealing with NONSENSE shootings. Not legitimate shootings in self-defense because the officer's life was in danger or the other person was armed and could have shot the officer. If you say 326 ARMED whites were killed who posed a serious threat to police, and 140 UNARMED Blacks were wantonly killed by bored police wanting to squash a what they perceive is a ****roach , that sort of changes the story a bit, don't you think?
Did you consider Michael Brown "unarmed"?

Let's also consider the Tamir Rice case. He was one of 5 blacks with toy guys shot in 2014. There were 22 whites killed under the same circumstances. 450% more whites killed for the "same crime"...

You don't think so? Let me ask you a question:
As a white person:
1) Do you have to worry that if you surrender and follow the police officer's order that you'll end up dead.
2) Do you have to worry that if your car broke down you could end up dead by a police officer?
3) Do you have to worry that your 80 year old grandmother may be pepper-sprayed by cops for asking why they are inside her house?
4) Do you have to worry about being rejected by an escort when you have enough money to pay her?

Still think there is nothing called white supremacy?

Come on pal.
Those are stupid questions. There is nothing called white supremacy. Strippers don't deny Asians. Cops don't profile Pacific Islanders. This has nothing to do with white people at all. Blacks are an outlier that get the reputation for the thug culture they glorify.
 
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There are differing accounts as to what happened there.
No, there aren't. Dorian Johnson was lying. Forensics proved this. The final bullet was fired into the top of Brown's head at close range, which proved Wilson's narrative that there was a struggle while Wilson was IN THE CAR. Brown was outside the door trying to get in.

How many white people are dead because of police stopping them for jay-walking? The premise of why someone is stopped in the first place is a minor violation should not result in a dead person.
He wasn't executed for jaywalking you moron. He was told to stop jaywalking, and went about his thuggish ways as he had been all day prior when he robbed a store and assaulted a clerk. He was dead for trying to steal the cop's gun to shoot him with it - not jaywalking.

I guess you never had drugs planted on you for some officer to meet their montly quota. Therefore you have the benefit of white priviledge.
There is no such thing as white privilege. Another myth of cowards.
 
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Who do you listen to for your news? I bet it's Alex Jones from InfoWars.
 
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Who do you listen to for your news? I bet it's Alex Jones from InfoWars.
No, I don't believe in a Jewish world conspiracy or lizard people. And I don't care for his paranoia and gun hysterics. But he's far more reputable than Cenk Uygur.

Noticed you didn't address one thing I said, about TYT, whites with toy guns, or Mike Brown. The race card was declined and you ran into a brick wall of facts.
 

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No, I don't believe in a Jewish world conspiracy or lizard people. And I don't care for his paranoia and gun hysterics. But he's far more reputable than Cenk Uygur.

Noticed you didn't address one thing I said, about TYT, whites with toy guns, or Mike Brown. The race card was declined and you ran into a brick wall of facts.
I don't think so. We have a disagreement of basic facts. When you start saying you can't look up google and do a search and saying CNN is propaganda, then I'm not sure if I'm interested in getting into a discussion.

I did a google search on whites with toy guns. Do you have a link about it? I see they are ARRESTED, but not shot.
Here's a random link from one of my searches:
http://www.alternet.org/civil-liber...ns-police-officers-and-managed-not-get-killed

Brick wall of facts? The problem is you are more interested in the messenger rather than the message itself and judging the message based on its own merits.

I don't agree with everything that TYT does or say. They take positions that I might find sacreligious or too secular and they say the f-word, or say the Lord's name in vain, and honestly, I don't like that. I think you could also take positions and say that FOX news is propaganda for the GOP, or that many mainstream news is biased because of corporate interests. Alternative news stations like Russia Today (American version), Democracy Now with Amy Goodman, and TYT with Cenk Ugar is supposed to cut-the-mustard. Now, Alex Jones from InfoWars sounds like he's in your wavelength, and in fact, Alex Jones and Cenk Ugar had a fight which Alex Jones started....so I get your position because I get Alex Jones.
 

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Let's add MLB to the list of organizations who do not allow criticism of BLM. Calling a mob of violent looters "animals" is racially insensitive and will not be tolerated.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sport...t-charlotte-tweets-seattle-mariners/90908618/
The Seattle Mariners suspended Steve Clevenger without pay for the remainder of the season, moving swiftly Friday to discipline their backup catcher after his set of tweets imploring that protestors in Charlotte should be “locked behind bars like animals.”

Clevenger, 30, who has played in just 22 games this season, issued an apology Thursday night for his tweets referring to protests in North Carolina following the fatal police shooting of an African American. He will not appeal his suspension, according to a person with direct knowledge of the issue. The person spoke to USA TODAY Sports on condition of anonymity because the matter is ongoing.

Clevenger’s tweets read:

“Black people beating whites when a thug got shot holding a gun by a black officer haha (expletive) cracks me up! Keep kneeling for the anthem!

“BLM (Black Lives Matter) is pathetic again! Obama you are pathetic once again! Everyone should be locked behind bars like animals!”

The Mariners issued a statement Thursday condemning the tweets, with general manager Jerry Dipoto noting the club is “examining all internal options available to us.”
 
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I don't think so. We have a disagreement of basic facts.
You cannot disagree on facts. You are entitled to your own opinion, not your own facts.

When you start saying you can't look up google and do a search and saying CNN is propaganda, then I'm not sure if I'm interested in getting into a discussion.
We've already been having a discussion for two days now??? It's just not going in your favor.

CNN recently had to apologize when the sister of a violent black thug shot by a black cop in Milwaukee called for the looters to move to white neighborhoods.

"Don't bring that violence here! We need our weave! Take that sh*t to the suburbs! Burn that sh*t down!


CNN stated she was calling for peace and cut the quote to this:

"Don't bring that violence here!"

This is pretty much a textbook definition of propaganda. Although, the fact that you admitted to watching TYT is far more disturbing than even CNN...

I did a google search on whites with toy guns. Do you have a link about it? I see they are ARRESTED, but not shot.
As you ask, you shall receive. Click on Toy Weapon and scoot on over to race. I'll be waiting for your concession.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/national/police-shootings/

I don't agree with everything that TYT does or say. They take positions that I might find sacreligious or too secular and they say the f-word, or say the Lord's name in vain, and honestly, I don't like that.
Cenk Uygur claims to be an atheist. If he is, that's the one thing he got right. Your lord very likely doesn't exist, but I digress.

Now, Alex Jones from InfoWars sounds like he's in your wavelength, and in fact, Alex Jones and Cenk Ugar had a fight which Alex Jones started....so I get your position because I get Alex Jones.
Also not true.

Every mainstream and alternative news outlet was covering the RNC. One of TYT's producers invited Alex onto the stage, and he decided to laugh and mix it up with Cenk playfully. Alex has been on TYT at least 4 times prior to this. Alex Jones wasn't there to "Fight." But Cenk is a bully, and as soon as Alex mentioned Cenk's sympathy towards Islamic terrorism, he flipped out. Then Jimmy Dore spit on Alex. So again, get your facts straight.
 

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As you ask, you shall receive. Click on Toy Weapon and scoot on over to race. I'll be waiting for your concession.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/national/police-shootings/
Nope. Filter male, mental illness, and there are more Blacks than Whites. Either way, it's still disproportionate if you consider the facts that Blacks are 14% of the population. The statistics are misleading until you go by percentage of the total populations rather than exact numbers.

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Every mainstream and alternative news outlet was covering the RNC. One of TYT's producers invited Alex onto the stage, and he decided to laugh and mix it up with Cenk playfully. Alex has been on TYT at least 4 times prior to this. Alex Jones wasn't there to "Fight." But Cenk is a bully, and as soon as Alex mentioned Cenk's sympathy towards Islamic terrorism, he flipped out. Then Jimmy Dore spit on Alex. So again, get your facts straight.
This is one of the times I am forced to provide a link of the video where this happened because what you are writing is pure ignorance:


Think he took umbrage about a T-shirt claiming Bill Clinton is a rapist, which he found was sick as he claimed Donald Trump was a rapist. This shirt was uncalled for and provoked what happened.

Cenk and his show being atheistic is an issue I strongly have a problem with. However, my God is a just God and Cenk takes passion on issues of justice. Therefore, whether he acknowledges God exists or not, he acknowledges justice exists and is passionate about it, and justice is one of the attributes of God. Being zealous for justice and righting wrongs in society is a good thing as moral beings. Causes like BLM are also on the side of societal justice in general as well as Colin Kaepernick. If their heart is in the right place and they are pursuing egalitarian justice then I don't understand why people have a problem with that?

Micah 5:8 He hath shown thee, O man, what is good; and what doth the Lord require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly before thy God?

Obviously, being just, and being merciful to other people pleases God whether you acknowledge He is real to you or not. May God have mercy on your soul.
 
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Nope. Filter male, mental illness, and there are more Blacks than Whites. Either way, it's still disproportionate if you consider the facts that Blacks are 14% of the population. The statistics are misleading until you go by percentage of the total populations rather than exact numbers.
This is the problem right here. See this everyone? He asked for a link on TOY GUNS, he got it, and he changed the subject to something else. You lost the point, so you diverted. People would have more respect if you just admitted you lost on that point, and then we could have moved onto the next one together after you conceded the point.

And no, it's not disproportionate against blacks. Blacks only made up 24% of the people killed by police, even though they commit 52% of murder and 38% of all violent crime. They are statistically UNDERREPRESENTED in these categories. The problem for you is you don't understand that statistical differences doesn't automatically equal discrimination. It has nothing to do with racism and everything to do with whose committing the crimes.

92% of people killed by police are men. That's because MEN COMMIT MORE CRIMES.

This is one of the times I am forced to provide a link of the video where this happened because what you are writing is pure ignorance:
No, it's not. The shirt was funny. Cenk didn't flip out until Ana started screaming and Alex Jones made a funny remark about TYT's "jihad". It was a reference to the fact that Cenk has shamefully given moral cover to Islamic terrorism on his show. Alex didn't yell or get aggressive like Cenk did, and he didn't ASSAULT anyone like Cenk's colleague Jimmy Dore.

Cenk and his show being atheistic is an issue I strongly have a problem with. However, my God is a just God and Cenk takes passion on issues of justice. Therefore, whether he acknowledges God exists or not, he acknowledges justice exists and is passionate about it, and justice is one of the attributes of God.
You are talking jibberish. Substitute "God" for "Zeus" or the Hindu monkey god "Hanuman" and you are saying the exact same thing. Nothing changes.

Causes like BLM are also on the side of societal justice in general.
Incorrect. They are a terrorist organization that has inspired the murder of whites and police officers. And it's founding premise was a lie. Hands Up Don't Shoot never happened.
 

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This is the problem right here. See this everyone? He asked for a link on TOY GUNS, he got it, and he changed the subject to something else. You lost the point, so you diverted. People would have more respect if you just admitted you lost on that point, and then we could have moved onto the next one together after you conceded the point.

And no, it's not disproportionate against blacks. Blacks only made up 24% of the people killed by police, even though they commit 52% of murder and 38% of all violent crime. They are statistically UNDERREPRESENTED in these categories. The problem for you is you don't understand that statistical differences doesn't automatically equal discrimination. It has nothing to do with racism and everything to do with whose committing the crimes.

92% of people killed by police are men. That's because MEN COMMIT MORE CRIMES.
The fact that police are killing white people too should be concerning to you. If movements like BLM, or other places, advance protection against police abuse then EVERYBODY will benefit, including white people who are innocently shot by police. People should stop seeing this as a Black problem and see this that police need to be held accountable to stop any deaths at all. Great models are policemen in Europe, or other places where there are simply almost no deaths occuring per year. This is mainly an American problem. You should help any movement dedicated to putting checks and balances on your own police.

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No, it's not. The shirt was funny. Cenk didn't flip out until Ana started screaming and Alex Jones made a funny remark about TYT's "jihad". It was a reference to the fact that Cenk has shamefully given moral cover to Islamic terrorism on his show. Alex didn't yell or get aggressive like Cenk did, and he didn't ASSAULT anyone like Cenk's colleague Jimmy Dore.
I provided the link to that video so it's up to everyone to review it and judge. This is your opinion of the video.

BlueAlpha1 said:
You are talking jibberish. Substitute "God" for "Zeus" or the Hindu monkey god "Hanuman" and you are saying the exact same thing. Nothing changes.
I never make judgements against you because I don't have to resort to ignorance. One day you will die and met God so what you tell me is irrelevant.

BlueAlpha1 said:
Incorrect. They are a terrorist organization that has inspired the murder of whites and police officers. And it's founding premise was a lie. Hands Up Don't Shoot never happened.
No, police getting away with murder and the wanton and savage nature of some of these murders inspired those murders. If a lone-wolf is disturbed by what is going on and wants to start their own vigilante justice then what does BLM have to do with that? You have smartphones and videos so police are no longer getting away with this with the community. BLM is just reacting to what police are doing.
 
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The fact that police are killing white people too should be concerning to you. If movements like BLM, or other places, advance protection against police abuse then EVERYBODY will benefit, including white people who are innocently shot by police. People should stop seeing this as a Black problem and see this that police need to be held accountable to stop any deaths at all. Great models are policemen in Europe, or other places where there are simply almost no deaths occuring per year. This is mainly an American problem. You should help any movement dedicated to putting checks and balances on your own police.
You and I have some common ground here, but unfortunately that is not BLM's view on it. They are not as sympathetic towards whites killed by police. You NEVER hear them talking about it. They ignore it because they hate white people.

I never make judgements against you because I don't have to resort to ignorance. One day you will die and met God so what you tell me is irrelevant.
Topic for another thread, but I am not afraid of empty threats of your invisible sky friend. One day I will die and cease to exist, like the day before I was conceived. And so will you.

No, police getting away with murder and the wanton and savage nature of some of these murders inspired those murders. If a lone-wolf is disturbed by what is going on and wants to start their own vigilante justice then what does BLM have to do with that? You have smartphones and videos so police are no longer getting away with this with the community. BLM is just reacting to what police are doing.
We definitely should address police brutality towards everyone, including blacks. The case of Walter Scott for example was clear murder. The officer should do life. Even in the Eric Garner case I felt that the officer should have been charged with manslaughter. I am not a totally lost cause on your arguments. But what BLM is doing in "response" is despicable. We could be putting a far better movement at the forefront of confronting police misconduct.
 

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Cam Newton is my favorite NFL player.

http://yellowhammernews.com/politic...lice-shootings-ignoring-black-black-violence/
Newton calls out ‘hypocrites’ protesting white police shootings while ignoring black-on-black violence
Newton was asked to specifically weigh in on the unrest that has swept across Charlotte this week, resulting in over a dozen police officers being injured.

Newton rejected the violent outbursts, then went a step further and gave his perspective on the stated reasons for the protests.

“I know from being a black person, it’s a lot of black people that don’t do right by black people. So you can’t be a hypocrite and just say, ‘Oh, well, a white man or a white police officer killed a black man,’” Newton said.

“Now, that’s still messed up. I’m not sitting up here saying that it’s OK. I’m just saying we just still gotta be, you know, have clear-eyed vision on both sides. And it starts with everybody holding each other accountable and policing yourselves.”
 

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