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RockaRolla25
01-18-2011, 01:38 PM
Think about it. Marriage is mostly for "old school" people like our parents and grandparents.

The classic life 50-75 years ago was "go to school, get a job, get married, have a family" and you win at life!

Nowadays, with the baby boom generation slowly dying out over the next 20 or so years, I think the younger generation growing up will not care about marriage.

Most men nowadays just want to have sex with whoever they want with no restrictions. Women are getting that way too. Gone are the days of women saying "I just want to settle down and have a great husband who will treat me with respect and be a good father." This was all well and good in 1950, but it's not 1950 anymore.

Men are SUPPOSED to spread their seed with as many different women as possible and have as many descendants as they can to continue their legacy. This whole "settling down with one woman/man" is almost like brainwashing.

To me it just reeks of "Holy s.hit! I found a woman willing to touch me! Better marry her before it's too late!"

To me it's like someone saying "OK, you can only eat pizza every day for the rest of your life." Well, pizza may be great and all, but having it every day will get old after a while. Sooner or later you're going to want a nice piece of chicken, or steak, or a hamburger, or hot dog, or spaghetti etc etc etc.

This is why I never understood why people get into relationships. I am happy being single and being on the prowl. To me, whenever a guy says "I have a girlfriend" it makes him look like a p.ussy.

Why stay with one girl when you can have so many others too? Do you enjoy ONLY having sex with one woman? If not, why are you in a relationship?

To me marriage/relationships are just people being lazy and giving up wanting to have fun. What do you guys think? Will marriage die out or will everyone stay pussified?

Traveller2011
01-18-2011, 01:49 PM
As long as there are women who want a man's money and assets there will be marriage.

Warrior74
01-18-2011, 02:30 PM
To me marriage/relationships are just people being lazy and giving up wanting to have fun. What do you guys think? Will marriage die out or will everyone stay pussified?

Nice binary choice you give there. Neither. Marriage will never die. Men will not stay pussified. Not every married man is a pussi.

Strelok
01-18-2011, 03:22 PM
Sincerly Im fine with long term relationships and even marriage as long as it's at my terms.

Of course I would not even share the same home with a woman in the usa where the law and the women find any possible way to fvck you.

JLW
01-18-2011, 07:55 PM
Men are SUPPOSED to spread their seed with as many different women as possible and have as many descendants as they can to continue their legacy. This whole "settling down with one woman/man" is almost like brainwashing.



First of all, what do you mean by "SUPPOSED" to? Who says? Even if we are biologically hard-wired to bang as many girls as possible (which is VERY debatable), that would do nothing to say whether or not we are SUPPOSED to do it. It would mean that we gravitate towards that lifestyle, but it would not mean that we have to follow those urges if we didn't want to. You have control over your own destiny.

Second of all, I can speak for myself as well as many others who are interested in marriage. It's nice to go through life with a faithful companion. I'm not saying that marriage is for everyone (obviously it's not for you), and I'm NOT saying you should just arbitrarily decide to marry the first girl that comes along. You just need to be picky. There's nothing wrong with marriage itself, though.

f283000
01-18-2011, 09:06 PM
A lot of guys say they don't believe in marriage (myself included) but deep down you know we would get married the next day if the "right" woman came along.

Every man knows or has known a woman that was so hot, so beautiful, so gorgeous that just to get with her he would marry her if he could. Don't lie and say this never happened to you.

As much as I ageee with Big Jimbo and have promised myself not to marry an american woman there are 2 women who I have known in my life who I would marry in an instant just to be with them.

Every man knows a woman or has known a woman that turned them into a total afc even if he's game is good and is no afc. Even a dj one day meets a woman that turns him back to an afc (although probably not a complete afc like us that aren't dj's yet).

FairShake
01-18-2011, 09:20 PM
Ehh...40+ yo men and women who are not married and do not have kids tend to be some of the most miserable, lonely bastards you will ever meet. If ONLY FOR THAT REASON marriage will continue.

zekko
01-18-2011, 10:18 PM
Look, if you're 25, go have your fun. Experience different women. Enjoy your life. At some point, what you find satisfying at a young age may not be satisfying any more.

Marriage has its problems, especially in modern culture. But I look at an LTR as having a partner. It's not about finding the hottest girl you can, it's about finding someone who compiments your life. Someone who is going the same direction you are, who can help you along the way. Someone who will plant some vegetables while you are fixing the roof. Who will help you paint the walls or whatever. It's a partnership.

When you get older and build a life, you may want someone to hang around and share it with you. You may not want to spend all your time in a bar or club. There are other things to do in life. Some guys will want to cat around their whole lives, and if that's their personality, more power to them. But there's always a choice. You have to do what's best for you.

f283000
01-18-2011, 10:23 PM
Ehh...40+ yo men and women who are not married and do not have kids tend to be some of the most miserable, lonely bastards you will ever meet. If ONLY FOR THAT REASON marriage will continue.
that was old school 40+ yo men and women.

The new breed of 40+ yo men and women (and the next generation) have much more options for fun.

Packers2010
01-18-2011, 10:42 PM
As long as there are women who want a man's money and assets there will be marriage.


love conquers all

f283000
01-18-2011, 11:27 PM
love conquers all
there is no such thing as love.

JLW
01-19-2011, 01:46 AM
there is no such thing as love.

If you really believe there is no such thing as love (or at the very least, an intense passion for someone/something, which by definition, is love) then I feel very bad for you.

teacha
01-19-2011, 05:50 AM
there is no such thing as love.

i pity you.

SamTheHobit
01-19-2011, 11:22 AM
Love exists it just doesnt exist in his world.

FairShake
01-19-2011, 02:39 PM
The new breed of 40+ yo men and women (and the next generation) have much more options for fun.


I haven't met them yet. I have SEEN them, the old guy at the club or the bar but I haven't talked to them yet. Probably won't.

As someone who's 30 I can tell you MOST decent men and women are taken at this age. At 40 it's really only the losers left without marriage or kids. There are many divorcees of course but most of them are looking for something longterm! Trust them they know!

5string
01-19-2011, 03:06 PM
Interesting topic.

My wife and I went out with a few other couples last Friday. Had a great time. There was a couple there who married very young, had one daughter and had been married for 37 yrs. They were hangin on each other like a couple of high school kids. I really had to smile at that. The couple that had this "get together" were much older. They had married young, and had been married over 50 yrs. They do everything together. So, for those who believe that love does not exist, my experience tells me otherwise.

OP, I don't agree that marriage will go by the wayside in future generations, however, it will be redefined and evolve from what it was in past generations.

Diaforetikos
01-20-2011, 03:40 AM
There are a lot of legal benefits to being married. Marriage will in no way become obsolete.

Darth
01-20-2011, 06:55 AM
My stance is, the people who think that marriage should become obsolete would make lousy fathers, so it's just as well.

Energy25
01-20-2011, 07:23 AM
Every man knows or has known a woman that was so hot, so beautiful, so gorgeous that just to get with her he would marry her if he could. Don't lie and say this never happened to you.Seriously? I'm pretty sure I value personality over looks when it comes to possibly marrying someone. Looks will fade over time. Personality will not. Just because a girl is really hot does not make her a good future wife.

Energy25
01-20-2011, 07:24 AM
there is no such thing as love.I feel sorry for you.

f283000
01-20-2011, 08:17 PM
Seriously? I'm pretty sure I value personality over looks when it comes to possibly marrying someone. Looks will fade over time. Personality will not. Just because a girl is really hot does not make her a good future wife.
Do you date fat chicks? They sure have nice personalities :D

Don't act like you don't know what i'm talking about. Nobody here is going to marry a 3 just because she has a nice personality that will "last a long time." Men want beauty with a good personality.

Sure personality is important but it's part of the equation but not as important as looks. Nobody here would admit to marrying a 3 with a great personality, but most would marry an hb 8 even if she has a horrible personality.

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backbreaker
01-20-2011, 10:53 PM
i was watching the new beyond scared straight series on A and E (great **** btw). they took 7 girls, all teenagers, all where slutbuckets, all were theives, drinking, smoking, pill popping, etc.

of those 7 girls, 6 of them, at the end of the day, had daddy issues, and by daddy issues, I mean, didn't have one.

That is why marriage, will never be obsolute becuase at the end of the day it's still the idea way to raise a child and at the end of the day, that's what it's all about my man.


When you get some hair on your nutts you will start to understand the ways of the world. It's not all about you and getting your rocks off.

zekko
01-21-2011, 08:01 AM
When you get some hair on your nutts you will start to understand the ways of the world. It's not all about you and getting your rocks off.

Omigosh, I can't believe someone said this.
I was beginning to think that the only thing that people on this forum thought was important was "getting your rocks off".

Alle_Gory
01-21-2011, 10:52 AM
When you get some hair on your nutts you will start to understand the ways of the world. It's not all about you and getting your rocks off.

Can't be said enough times. Most people here are in the "what's in it for me?" stage.

backbreaker
01-21-2011, 11:36 AM
To add, and this just happened like, 10 mintues ago.

My dad's side of my family, my dad is the youngest of 4 kids. His 2nd oldest brother has Sickle Cell. Not, the Lefteye cute I an still do **** sickle cell, I mean full blown, can't run, can't do anything seriously sickle cell.

He is in the hospital, and, from what I hear, it doesn't look good, at all. I just left little rock, will be leaving again to go back tonight, the second I heard that, it was a no brainier. Easily my fav uncle.

But you know what is ****ed up? my dad couldn't even call me and ****ing tell me, his brother was in the hospital. I had to hear it from my mom. I say I had a normal childhood, but I didn't, being raised by my mom even though my dad was around, he didn't live with us.

how ****ed up is your relationship with your son when you can't call your oldest son and say your uncle is extremely sick you need to come home.

For who I am I think I turned out quite well, but, I had o have my issues. I'm extremely independent, to the point where I really just don't trust people. My drug addiction, is a direct result of my upbringing, I am fully convinced of this. We don't talk. My dad does not know how to hold a normal conversation with me, without talking about the women he is ****ing or talking about the cowboys. It's quite ****ed up.

Then, you have people talking about how marriage is going to be obsolete. When my son is 27, I want him to be able to call me and tell me anything. It's not that I am afraid of my dad.. I just don't ****ing now him lol, I haven't talked to him in the past, he doesn't make an effort, why should I.


Truth be told, alot of what I am today, is nothing more than overcompensation for what I didn't get, what I wasn't growing up. it takes a pretty ****ed up child to want be willing to give up almost 4 years of his life, just to prove a point, the poin being that he is successful and that he is "somebody". it just so happened to pay off. For all the stuff I have, I'd kill for a dad that gave a ****, who didn't try to **** his son's women and who actually called to say hi every once in a while. And you have the nerve to tell me marriage is going to be obsolete


PS - yeah it's so bad I just got a call from my mom, i'm not even going to bother with a flight tonight, he won't make it in time for me to see him. they won't even operate on him, probably won't make it to tomorrow, yet my dad can't even call and pick up the phone.

Strelok
01-21-2011, 01:38 PM
To add, and this just happened like, 10 mintues ago.

My dad's side of my family, my dad is the youngest of 4 kids. His 2nd oldest brother has Sickle Cell. Not, the Lefteye cute I an still do **** sickle cell, I mean full blown, can't run, can't do anything seriously sickle cell.

He is in the hospital, and, from what I hear, it doesn't look good, at all. I just left little rock, will be leaving again to go back tonight, the second I heard that, it was a no brainier. Easily my fav uncle.

But you know what is ****ed up? my dad couldn't even call me and ****ing tell me, his brother was in the hospital. I had to hear it from my mom. I say I had a normal childhood, but I didn't, being raised by my mom even though my dad was around, he didn't live with us.

how ****ed up is your relationship with your son when you can't call your oldest son and say your uncle is extremely sick you need to come home.

For who I am I think I turned out quite well, but, I had o have my issues. I'm extremely independent, to the point where I really just don't trust people. My drug addiction, is a direct result of my upbringing, I am fully convinced of this. We don't talk. My dad does not know how to hold a normal conversation with me, without talking about the women he is ****ing or talking about the cowboys. It's quite ****ed up.

Then, you have people talking about how marriage is going to be obsolete. When my son is 27, I want him to be able to call me and tell me anything. It's not that I am afraid of my dad.. I just don't ****ing now him lol, I haven't talked to him in the past, he doesn't make an effort, why should I.


Truth be told, alot of what I am today, is nothing more than overcompensation for what I didn't get, what I wasn't growing up. it takes a pretty ****ed up child to want be willing to give up almost 4 years of his life, just to prove a point, the poin being that he is successful and that he is "somebody". it just so happened to pay off. For all the stuff I have, I'd kill for a dad that gave a ****, who didn't try to **** his son's women and who actually called to say hi every once in a while. And you have the nerve to tell me marriage is going to be obsolete
Sorry to hear that backbreaker but actually it proves the point,dinsfunctional families were rare in past,there was a man and a woman growing their children and everybody was doing what he was supposed to.

Right now disfuncional families are becoming the norm in the western world so marriage its getting pointless,lets imagine that marriage is like a colored paint that you do for your working car,now what is the point to paint a car that is going to be broken for sure after 1000km?

And trust me I perfectly agree with you in the part about establishing a good relation with sons and give them support and love but it's not that easy as it was 50yrs ago.

Igetit!
01-21-2011, 02:26 PM
When you get some hair on your nutts you will start to understand the ways of the world. It's not all about you and getting your rocks off.


+1 rep.


This is the BEST POST I've seen on the forum in I don't know how long.


Omigosh, I can't believe someone said this.
I was beginning to think that the only thing that people on this forum thought was important was "getting your rocks off".


Me too. I still do to some extent. Granted,yeah,this is the "Don Juan/Sosuave" seduction forum,and learning and understanding women and dating is the premise here,but at times it almost seems like instead of acting like grown men discussing women,it's a bunch of horny,lust driven adolescents being controlled by their sexual desire.




It's like.....

thread:"She has a boyfriend".....reply:have sex with her
thread"She's married".....reply:have sex with her
thread"She has a disease"....reply:have sex with her. Wear a condom,but have sex with her.
thread"She has BPD and makes my life a living hell"....reply:Next her. Get a couple more bangs out of her first,but next her.



It's AMAZING how much UNNECESARY stress,struggle,hardship,pain,danger,and strife men will put THEMSELVES through for 15 minutes of pleasure.



They'll literally let their d!cks destroy them.




Oh,and about marriage becoming obsolete.....naw,not going to happen. It's been around since Adam and Eve,I don't see it going anywhere anytime soon.

pinhas
01-21-2011, 02:36 PM
A lot of people choose marriage because of the legal perks you get; health insurance, benefits, many different financial perks and tax related benefits.

This is why homosexuals are fighting to marriage rights. Its not only about sex, love, companionship or monogamy. there are real world advantages to marriage.

And this is coming from a 24 year old who doesn't even want to think about marriage..

Darth
01-21-2011, 03:33 PM
+1 rep.


This is the BEST POST I've seen on the forum in I don't know how long.



+2.

Energy25
01-23-2011, 11:26 AM
Do you date fat chicks? They sure have nice personalities :D

Don't act like you don't know what i'm talking about. Nobody here is going to marry a 3 just because she has a nice personality that will "last a long time." Men want beauty with a good personality.

Sure personality is important but it's part of the equation but not as important as looks. Nobody here would admit to marrying a 3 with a great personality, but most would marry an hb 8 even if she has a horrible personality.Actually most fat chicks I have met I find annoying, so not sure what you're talking about.

Also, I disagree that "personality is not as important as looks." Completely disagree. You said that "Most would marry an hb 8 even if she has a horrible personality." I cannot believe you would even think this. What would be the purpose of marrying yourself to someone with a horrible personality!? If all you thought of her was her looks, then why marry her? You would marry an 8 even if she annoyed the hell out of you? WHY?! I would much rather marry a 6 who has a great personality. Your life seems messed up, just being honest.

synergy1
01-24-2011, 09:21 AM
On personality, I think of it like this. A fat chick doesn't have the personality I would get along with. I work out a lot, am active, and eat right. Fat women don't. They lack an element of dedication that I possess. Judging a fat chick on the basis of compatibility with me actually is quite easy. No fatties allowed!

The idea of marriage doesn't urk me. Its dedicating ones self to something more than you, and provides support for a functional family unit. I am the kind of person that if I accidentally had a kid w/ a gf and she didn't believe in abortion, I would put 100% into the role. What i dislike about the institution of marriage in this country is the predatory nature of the laws attached too it. I dislike government involvement in my life. What happens if my chick changes for the worst despite my best efforts? Marriage than becomes a huge burden. I am no fool. People change, and everyone is driven in part by selfish tendencies.

In short its silly to think that because someone is opposed to marriage as it exists in the USA is opposed to providing a functional family unit and dedicating themselves to their fullest to that pursuit. I feel I can do this successfully without a state appointed document and lawyers. If laws/powers exercised by the state were relaxed a bit and marriage posed less of a risk to both parties, i might be inclined to change my mind. However no higher institution which has enacted constrictive laws has ever eased them later on. Its human nature.