"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Ok, I get this line all the time, and I still haven't come up with a decent response. I've lost a lot of HB's just because they thought I was a player even when I've done everything to deny it.

Do you guys ever get this? Basically I always respond with me denying it. Or if it's like the second or third date I say "if i was a player I wouldn't be talking to you right now." Though this never convinces them. So I'm asking you guys what's a good response and how do you convince them that you aren't a player?
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Last time I was asked I told the girl "yeah, but I've only have the 1976 players handbook, do you have the 2008 version?" and played off that.


I was talking to three girls that a friend opened up for me and things were going very well while this one girl kept "attacking" me and each time I answered her her two other friends started laughing. So this was all in the context of fun. I'd probably use the same type of line if I'm asked that.
 

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I can tell you what not to do. Don't say yah...I'm a player...I got lots of hoes. LOL.

Seriously...its just a sign that they are interested and if your this good with them they know you can pull other women. So the question is..are you a good guy or a player. A true player of course would never admit to being a player and neither would a nice guy. Nice catch 22. Just keep doing what you do. It means she likes what she sees, she's just wondering if she can keep it.
 

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"Are you a Player?"

Try THESE answers on your next target:

"Are you a Player?"

"Aww...I think it's so sneaky and cute that you'd rather call me a player first-----to hide the fact that it's YOU who are really the player."

Or

"Are you a Player?"

"Hmmm, funny that you'd even say something like that...But hey, let's talk about what's REALLY going on here: Why don't you tell me what it is about you that makes you only like guy's who you think are players?"

Or

"Are you a Player?"

"Player? Me? Wowww...do you always do this? Do you ALWAYS try to talk yourself out of getting to know guy's that you feel this attracted to?"

Or

"Are you a Player?"

"Hah! I bet you say that to every guy you have this much chemistry with whenever you're out with him @ TGI Fridays on a Saturday nite, when you're sitting next him, and you're looking into his eyes, and he has his arm around you holding you THIS close----like I'M doing right now."


Notice the things that MOST of these responses have in common are :

1. You don't take her question seriously
2. Your answers are always laced with sarcasm and/or humor, and
3. You turn her "player" accusations back on her----making HER have to qualify her motivations and intentions to YOU.


Remember Soldier:

The LESS weight you give a woman's accusations, the LESS power they will have to effect the outcome of your interactions, and also, the LESS distance those accusations can go in her efforts to knock you off your "game" with her in the future.


March on.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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So add sarcasm and take her accusations lightly. I usually do this, but still it may not be enough to convince her. She'll usually bring it up again, maybe it's a shi# test? Because usually it takes more than just a funny response to gain her trust. I think I'll just keep making c/f comments whenever she tries to bust my ball$. Thanks guys.
 

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Not saying I have it but I guess this is one of the backfires for having good game. Damn.
 

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Sandow said:
Not saying I have it but I guess this is one of the backfires for having good game. Damn.
Yo Sandow,


Also, you may want to think about modulating your "mack-mode". Sometimes, depending on the woman, it's possible for a man to be TOO MUCH for her---and, in effect, succeed in OVERQUALIFYING himself. Depending upon the self-esteem of the woman, a man can sometimes come across to her as being "too good for her".

So although it's usually wise to be in FULL EFFECT when we're approaching/interacting with women, trying to figure out the self-esteem level of the woman in question can give us clues to just how much of our MANPOWER she can stand without being "scared off".

And I know this is not always possible to assess, but when you CAN, it may help you calibrate how "magnetic and smooth" you come across to the women that you meet.

Just something to think about...

But regardless, I've found it's best to err on the side of being TOO MUCH man as opposed to being "TOO little" man.

Keep it MARCHING, dude.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Haha, tell her: "I'm not a player, I'm RUNNING the game."...lol, I heard this in a rap song...
 

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Basically what Victory is saying, is don't deny being a player, just continue to PLAY her. This is basically the same thing that I do when confronted with the how many women you slept with.
 

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Next time I'm gonna say "Yea, I got mad b!tches yo" in a tone of voice where she can't figure out whether or not I'm serious.

Which one of the pickup guru's recommends never answering a woman's question directly or seriously unless it's with a "no"?

I believe this applies here.
 

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MacAvoy said:
Basically what Victory is saying, is don't deny being a player, just continue to PLAY her. This is basically the same thing that I do when confronted with the how many women you slept with.
Yea, when they ask how many girls I've slept with I just say, "I don't kiss and tell ;)" But I swear it comes off the wrong way cuz they give me the worst look! Whatever I'm sure they love it subconsciously.
 

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Yea, when they ask how many girls I've slept with I just say, "I don't kiss and tell ;)" But I swear it comes off the wrong way cuz they give me the worst look! Whatever I'm sure they love it subconsciously.
Its all in the delivery. I tell them that I'm going after Wilt Chamberlain's record and I'm dead serious when I say it. I never waver from my stance. Its so ludicrous but I stand firm. They honestly have no idea after that.

Its perfect cuz it eats away at them, they can't stop thinking about it (and therefore me). You have to make yourself attractive, remember a player is attractive, don't be afraid of what you are. Reminds me of my favourite SS saying, A women would rather share a successful man than be saddled to a faithful loser.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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