"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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working things out with the ex?

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we have all had ex's that we were better off not being with. when people ask here what to do we quickly say, spin plates and move on...but what if the girl was a great catch for you and was great for you.
my story, been dating someone for a long time...about 2 years. she broke it off bc i wasnt moving forward in life/ career 5months ago.. i have since then but we havnt spoken since i went nc a month ago.

how do you go about getting back into contact with her or working things out again. i have been spinning plates, nothing great, just really been working on myself.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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Its not that you werent moving forward with your career, its that you became boring to her. simply getting a new job isnt going to make her see you in some new magnificent glow. look what you said here

firsttimelongtime said:
but what if the girl was a great catch for you and was great for you
she was great for you but, obviously you were not great for her. Most women just want to have fun, true some women are fond of just staying in with their hubby and relax and not going out doing things, but you still must be able to charm those women and have fun with them while doing nothing.

you need to work on yourself, but great work in moving up in your career your on the right path. If you think you have grown as a person to where you think you can get her back, give her a call and ask her for coffee and see how it goes or ask her to do something fun. If you havent gone out and bagged a few girls tho, your minds probably not over her and it will be impossible to get her back because in your mind you have put her value above yourself.
 

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Its not that you werent moving forward with your career, its that you became boring to her. simply getting a new job isnt going to make her see you in some new magnificent glow. look what you said here
I definatly was not boring. I always kept thing exciting. This is one of those unique cases where she was honest and wanted a more driven bf. but everything else you said was good. maybe i will give her a call soon.
 

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firsttimelongtime said:
I definatly was not boring. I always kept thing exciting. This is one of those unique cases where she was honest and wanted a more driven bf. but everything else you said was good. maybe i will give her a call soon.
Make sure your forward with her then. Her saying she wants a boyfriend thats driven = you didnt have any passion or any hobbies or interests besides having fun with her and cashing your paycheck.

me for example I love music, I dj and am passionate about that, I also own my own business which I have big goals for. I run that sh!t with disregard to any women in my life
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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how do you suggest being forward with her? straight up telling her "ive changed?"

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Whats a good way to ask her out while holding frame? Reason i ask is that she isnt the type to do a coffee date
 

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The only thing you should ever "work out" with an ex is the stuff that she has in her possession that you really want back: Like an HD TV or an X-Box.

Other than that, you shouldn't be working out anything.

She is NOT a great catch.

She dumped you because she didn't think you were career driven?

Now you HAVE a good job. Doesn't that make her.... WRONG???
She was wrong about you, why would you want to go back to that?

And BTW, if you do, she'll eventually have another excuse to not be with you:

"Well, that job isn't good enough for me."

When a woman wants a man who is more career driven, it basically means that she wants to be better off economically and live more off of YOU.

How is she a great catch if she made a wrong assessment about YOU?

And isn't it easier to game new women rather than re-visit this situation? What are you going to say to her: Look, I'm worth it now, I have a new job?

You'd spend less effort and time trying to meet new people. Forget her.
It's not worth it.
 

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The only thing you should ever "work out" with an ex is the stuff that she has in her possession that you really want back: Like an HD TV or an X-Box.

Other than that, you shouldn't be working out anything.

She is NOT a great catch.

She dumped you because she didn't think you were career driven?

Now you HAVE a good job. Doesn't that make her.... WRONG???
She was wrong about you, why would you want to go back to that?

And BTW, if you do, she'll eventually have another excuse to not be with you:

"Well, that job isn't good enough for me."

When a woman wants a man who is more career driven, it basically means that she wants to be better off economically and live more off of YOU.

How is she a great catch if she made a wrong assessment about YOU?

And isn't it easier to game new women rather than re-visit this situation? What are you going to say to her: Look, I'm worth it now, I have a new job?

You'd spend less effort and time trying to meet new people. Forget her.
It's not worth it.
I see and understand your points... With that said, maybe this is the extreme case. I have already made the decision to get back into contact with her and i am searching for ways of doing it without losing frame. I wasnt focused on work earlier, i was just happy not working before and she wanted a driven individual.
 

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firsttimelongtime said:
I have already made the decision to get back into contact with her and i am searching for ways of doing it without losing frame.
You lost the frame when she dumped YOU.

You're frame is at ZERO.

In other words, contacting her will put you at a NEGATIVE frame. She has ALL of the power right now, even if you don't contact her, so do yourself a favor, and DON'T.

And this isn't an exception, but by doing so, you are suggesting and implying that you have ONEITIS.

Go ahead, contact her yourself and find out the hard way.
 

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"I got dumped now I'm gonna prove her wrong and get her back"......

A new one every week on this form...

Dude, you're done with her by her choice.....

Move on, start fresh, stop waisting your life on this chick who isn't into you....

Women - Break perfectly good things and then feel bad

Chumps - Try to fix things that are unrepairable and then feel bad

DJs - Take their sh!t away from the breakers so they don't have to be the repairers


Over and Out.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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firsttimelongtime,

Pal, she lost interest and dumped you.

There is a reason why them call them an ex.

You are wasting your time.

Forget her and move on.
 
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