"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Women with kids???

Money2burn

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Any comments on what is the right thing to do in these situations? I've pulled a few, but always felt guilty like i was taking advantage of a vulnerable situation. I tend to push away from women based on the fact they have kids already. Does this make any sense? Do the same rules apply or should i be extra careful?

I have one girl that i've been seeing for over a year. I think she's really fun but only from a sexual stand point. I kinda think if she didn't already have a kid i would like her alot more... and i feel like a scumbag because i know she really likes me and is looking for something more serious.

I tend to go back to her whenever things with other girls don't work out. Should i stop? Or should i not even care?

any comments?
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Money2burn said:
Any comments on what is the right thing to do in these situations? I've pulled a few, but always felt guilty like i was taking advantage of a vulnerable situation. I tend to push away from women based on the fact they have kids already. Does this make any sense? Do the same rules apply or should i be extra careful?

I have one girl that i've been seeing for over a year. I think she's really fun but only from a sexual stand point. I kinda think if she didn't already have a kid i would like her alot more... and i feel like a scumbag because i know she really likes me and is looking for something more serious.

I tend to go back to her whenever things with other girls don't work out. Should i stop? Or should i not even care?

any comments?
I dated a girl with a child and my only regret was that the child accepted that I was going to be in his life.

He got to the point where he said he wanted me to be his step dad and I felt horrible when I knew the relationship with his mother and I wasn't going to work.

They both grew to love me and I pulled the carpet out from under both of them.

I strongly advise to use caution in that situation. You can't separate the child from the mother, nor can you prevent the child from becoming adapted to your presence.

Children need stability. It is the mother's and the suitors’ responsibility to not drag that child through more emotional damage than he/she has already been through. Especially if it is just for some good old fashion bed wrestling.
 

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Money2burn said:
Any comments on what is the right thing to do in these situations? I've pulled a few, but always felt guilty like i was taking advantage of a vulnerable situation. I tend to push away from women based on the fact they have kids already. Does this make any sense? Do the same rules apply or should i be extra careful?

I have one girl that i've been seeing for over a year. I think she's really fun but only from a sexual stand point. I kinda think if she didn't already have a kid i would like her alot more... and i feel like a scumbag because i know she really likes me and is looking for something more serious.

I tend to go back to her whenever things with other girls don't work out. Should i stop? Or should i not even care?

any comments?

If you are getting action and the girl is hot, why stop? She would leave in 2 sec if she met a Brad Pitt lookalike came along.

Just have fun being with her.
 
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