Women with best guy friends

[convict24]

Discuss!

Why is this an issue? What problems arise because of this? How do you handle this the correct way?


Ling story short my girlfriend of 4 months has a best guy friend back in her home town. They have been friends for years. I know alot about him. I don't take him as a threat so far. He probably wishes he could be with her for sure. reminds me of myself a couple years ago when I would make girls my best friend and wish I could be more than that but never could and never would be. BUT sosuave as taught me and from my experience that this situation is BS!



December we are going up north so she can introduce me to her family, her home town, she wants us to stay at his house!! How do I handle this. She is suppose to stay a week longer than me!


So far iv just kept my cool. Like I said I don't take him as a threat. Iv just slid backwards getting wrapped up with this one.

 

[wifehunter]

Frame test.

Got frame?

If you don't like it, you can always walk away.

 

[Ratiocinative]

Close platonic relationships with the same gender and sexual relationships with the opposite gender is a very strong sign of a person of high value.

A man can be causal platonic friends with women. There are women in my MMA classes and I joke with them and flirt, we have fun, but they aren't close friends I hang out with alone. There is one girl I have a crush on and last time I saw her it was clear she wants me to make a move, so ill be going out alone with her, but it definitely won't be platonic.

It isn't as bad for women. Women who are slightly more masculine can even sometime be a turn on depending on what ways they are more masculine, but men definitely have a lower value when they behave more feminine in even a slight amount.

Don't worry about him, just be social and maybe even try to be a masculine influence on him. If he does try to do anything to break you guys up just grab some popcorn and enjoy the show. Sounds like she's probably just really excited to show you off to her family and friends so just go and have a good time.

 

[ImTheDoubleGreatest!]

I dislike it because the girl doesn't even necessarily like her 'best friend', she just uses him to try to get you jealous. Not always, but somewhere along the line she will. Even if you aren't her boyfriend.

 

[Desdinova]

Why is this an issue? What problems arise because of this?

December we are going up north so she can introduce me to her family, her home town, she wants us to stay at his house!!

You just answered your own question. You now have a problem because she has an orbiter. One other major problem is that you ALWAYS have a c0ckblocker. While you're not around, he's going to cast as many doubts in her mind that you're completely wrong for him.

The most important problem about women keeping orbiters is it's disrespectful. Exclusivity means she has one man and you have one woman. If you're going to be in a LTR, it should be taken seriously. She obviously isn't interested in seriously keeping one man as her priority. She wants many men as her priority. Women who do that are wh0res.

I am going to restate this... QUIT REWARDING DISRESPECTFUL, GARBAGE WOMEN WITH EXCLUSIVITY. They don't deserve high quality men. They deserve to be fvcked and tossed away like the wh0res they are.

 

[Infern0]

Women that are above a 5 for looks don't have male friends they have beta orbiters.

It's not a "problem" because they are no threat if you have any idea what you are doing but....

The more beta orbiters they have the more entitled and attention *****y they are so be prepared for excessive game playing if you go past casual with her

 

[Alvafe]

biggest problem, you know staying in someone else house is a problem, I would really search for a hotel there to stay, do not stay at anyone home its annoying and you really can't do what you want, if she brings any issue, he is a tool to make you jealous. also notice, if was you staying in a girl home for a week alone she would complain, a interested girl will not put herself in a place to raise doubt even less if she thinks that will make you go away, so or you are not really that high on her list,or she is a retard or even she want to find a excuse to kick you

you can also take a piss and ask her why not one of your girls place? if she catch us doing it maybe she will join, that is a lot more fun to me

 

[Von]

The fact she even mentioned that is wrong.

Who you meeting again?

 

[CMNILS87]

Both my sisters have guy friends that pass boundaries sometimes. For instance, one sister has a male friend that when they're both single they'll give each other back rubs at the lakes while everyone else is sitting around them. Seems weird as fuvk to me. Would either of them be caught doing that in relationships. God no! They know there's a boundary. Being platonic friends gets you nothing honestly. All close chick friends I've had, I've made a move on and I'm 2/3 at the moment. You're 1-2 drinks and a night at home away from having your gf cheat. Depends if said platonic friend is a puasy or not to escalate

 

[devilkingx2]

depends on the girl

if the girl has some guyish hobbies then there's no reason that she shouldn't be allowed to play yugioh and run destiny raids with her bros

if there's no logical reason she should be particularly suited to having guy friends, then expect that her guy friends are merely orbiters, and that she's either oblivious(whether due to naivety or narcissism) or manipulating them

 

[convict24]

Thanks everyone!

I consistently keep frame. I have definitely made some compromises for this one. F'n dumb move on my part but I stay in the gym I stay talking to women. I already practiced and executed the transformation into being the man I am today thanks to this site! But with that said I already cheated three time and contracted the clap (still don't know what hoe gave me that ****) and transmitted it to this one lol... Glad it wasn't something for life! So even if she sleeps with this beta, he has multiple failed bull**** relationships, I even tried to help this dude he just doesn't get it. But I get it. I was that dude! This girl hates what I tried to teach him even though I live by it and she loves it.

I left alot out to get more feedback obviously.

She is a solid HB8+. She is a high quality women. If anything she has made compromises to be with me! She sh*t tested me early and brought up that she has guy friends. Andrew has been talked about alot from the second it got serious. He's definitely a beta orbiter. When I told her I don't tolerate guy friends she freaked! She's 27 one year older than me. I'm going to put her in the naive category. When I told her that their relationship and her advice does not help this "friend" she did not get it. "I don't see anything wrong with guy friends" I laughed at her accepted that she doesn't get it and moved on because I run sh*t. They have been friends for 4 years. He's a pus s y and has probably been cheated on multiple times. Apparently he knows what the red and blue pill are but does not get that being friends with a women and getting advice from one is the worst thing you can do! She could possibly be narcissistic but so am I so w/e she ****s like a porn star and it's as tight as the 21 year old i banged a week after I met her. I don't believe the crap she said earlier on in the relationship. "I don't ever not use a condom, iv slept wotj less than 10 guys, ect. You get the point. All her friends are married or in serious relationships btw. She's definitely a higher quality bi t ch. Iv been overwhelmed the last couple weeks and let her see a side of me I should not have... But it's w/e because I easily regain frame.

I'm going to remember my hard lessons, experience, of course sosuave!, And ride this out boys! I'm going to be dirty now though. Keylogger is installed on laptop now. My phone is and always is clean, computer science major. Going to start acting sketchy with my phone see if she wants the password and if she does I want to see her phone too! If she doesn't agree goodbye! I'm 15 pounds of muscle heavier than when I met her

So now I just need to decide if I should waste my time burning this chick. I have only done this once before in the past. Ultimately I can waste some time and money and find out the truth that I don't like. Or hopefully I fu c kin pray I find nothing. Just a dumb women who thinks there is room for platonic relationships. I already expect some broken boundaries. Basically I will not and cannot accept someone who wants to fill my head up with all of these serious relationship talks and have some guy Shes stringing alone kept around to never get what he probably wants or for all we know already had!

I really like this one.... If she is honestly being exclusive I will keep her around! Time of my life with this one and it keeps getting better! So either way iv either actually scored a good one or learned a good lesson on my journey to becoming a DJ!

If I make her scream after orgasms of orgasm in his house and show how I'm alpha and he's beta what's the worst that's going to happen lol?

Am I allowed to do this and still enjoy this in my sick way. cause it took this chick 4 months to figure out I have some serious sick thinking.

 

[Desdinova]

She is a high quality women.

she has guy friends.

These two don't belong in the same paragraph together. She's not high quality. She's just physically attractive to you.

When I told her I don't tolerate guy friends she freaked!

And you obviously gave in at some point.

Keylogger is installed on laptop now.

You could make everything easier and dump the bytch now. The only time I'd use a keylogger is if I suspect she's fvcking around and is hiding it. You already know something's going on. You already know she has a guy friend she won't cut contact with. Now, because you refuse to cut this bytch out of your life, you are paranoid about your GF's interactions with this guy and possibly other men. WTF kind of relationship is that? Things are only going to be downhill from this point on.

Going to start acting sketchy with my phone see if she wants the password and if she does I want to see her phone too! If she doesn't agree goodbye!

It should have been 'goodbye' when she decided to remain in contact with her guy friend. You placed a boundary, she overstepped it, and you let her get away with it. She isn't going to take you seriously.

The way I see it... Women need to remain respectful with the rules set in place for the relationship. If they don't, then they face the consequences. I kicked my last GF to the curb solely for the reason of her having a good guy friend... that she occasionally goes fishing with.... and had a crush on.... and told him he was good looking..... IN MY PRESENCE. I laid it down that I won't tolerate it and made her cry. A couple of months later, she told me she wasn't going to stop being friends with him for anybody. So I dumped her.

I have no tolerance for blatant disrespect in my relationships. When women believe they can have their cake and eat it too with no regards to how I feel, then it's just going to be downhill from there. Cut the rope immediately and let her fall into the abyss of ex-GFs. I don't have time for disrespect, arguing, and lousy women.

I really like this one.... If she is honestly being exclusive I will keep her around!

She isn't, and you already know this. When she has one man in her life and you have one woman, you have mutual respect. Neither of you have to worry about friends of the opposite sex, guy friends, jealousy, paranoia, etc etc.

Time of my life with this one and it keeps getting better!

Being paranoid and installing keyloggers is better?

If I make her scream after orgasms of orgasm in his house and show how I'm alpha and he's beta what's the worst that's going to happen lol?

Alpha males don't need to do this. Alpha males throw away women who piss them off because they know they can just go get another one.

 

[CMNILS87]

If you want to be in his house, then just do it.

There's no way that I would want to be there at all (let alone a week), and I wouldn't go.

If it really doesn't bother you, then it's of no consequence.

I wouldn't be telling her what to do either. But, a girl that wants to stay over at other men's houses alone is not to be taken seriously. She either lacks basic social intelligence (doubtful), or she is taking the piss. I would take that into consideration - either way.

And spending your December running around after her is definitely not 'owning the frame'. It's compromise - no point in arguing otherwise. The question is how much are you willing to compromise here (if at all)? And I think hanging around with her orbiters over a sustained period is probably a sensible line to draw for yourself.

Thanks everyone!

I consistently keep frame. I have definitely made some compromises for this one. F'n dumb move on my part but I stay in the gym I stay talking to women. I already practiced and executed the transformation into being the man I am today thanks to this site! But with that said I already cheated three time and contracted the clap (still don't know what hoe gave me that ****) and transmitted it to this one lol... Glad it wasn't something for life! So even if she sleeps with this beta, he has multiple failed bull**** relationships, I even tried to help this dude he just doesn't get it. But I get it. I was that dude! This girl hates what I tried to teach him even though I live by it and she loves it.

I left alot out to get more feedback obviously.

She is a solid HB8+. She is a high quality women. If anything she has made compromises to be with me! She sh*t tested me early and brought up that she has guy friends. Andrew has been talked about alot from the second it got serious. He's definitely a beta orbiter. When I told her I don't tolerate guy friends she freaked! She's 27 one year older than me. I'm going to put her in the naive category. When I told her that their relationship and her advice does not help this "friend" she did not get it. "I don't see anything wrong with guy friends" I laughed at her accepted that she doesn't get it and moved on because I run sh*t. They have been friends for 4 years. He's a pus s y and has probably been cheated on multiple times. Apparently he knows what the red and blue pill are but does not get that being friends with a women and getting advice from one is the worst thing you can do! She could possibly be narcissistic but so am I so w/e she ****s like a porn star and it's as tight as the 21 year old i banged a week after I met her. I don't believe the crap she said earlier on in the relationship. "I don't ever not use a condom, iv slept wotj less than 10 guys, ect. You get the point. All her friends are married or in serious relationships btw. She's definitely a higher quality bi t ch. Iv been overwhelmed the last couple weeks and let her see a side of me I should not have... But it's w/e because I easily regain frame.

I'm going to remember my hard lessons, experience, of course sosuave!, And ride this out boys! I'm going to be dirty now though. Keylogger is installed on laptop now. My phone is and always is clean, computer science major. Going to start acting sketchy with my phone see if she wants the password and if she does I want to see her phone too! If she doesn't agree goodbye! I'm 15 pounds of muscle heavier than when I met her

So now I just need to decide if I should waste my time burning this chick. I have only done this once before in the past. Ultimately I can waste some time and money and find out the truth that I don't like. Or hopefully I fu c kin pray I find nothing. Just a dumb women who thinks there is room for platonic relationships. I already expect some broken boundaries. Basically I will not and cannot accept someone who wants to fill my head up with all of these serious relationship talks and have some guy Shes stringing alone kept around to never get what he probably wants or for all we know already had!

I really like this one.... If she is honestly being exclusive I will keep her around! Time of my life with this one and it keeps getting better! So either way iv either actually scored a good one or learned a good lesson on my journey to becoming a DJ!

If I make her scream after orgasms of orgasm in his house and show how I'm alpha and he's beta what's the worst that's going to happen lol?

Am I allowed to do this and still enjoy this in my sick way. cause it took this chick 4 months to figure out I have some serious sick thinking.

Hang on....... you've committed to said "high quality" woman. Yet, you've cheated on her 3 times, contracted the clap, and gave it to her? And you're worried about her breaking boundaries. Man you must be truly "alpha" if you don't give a fuvk about spreading diseases to other people let alone the one person you're suppose to have trust with.

You're either a troll or have a serious compulsion disorder. You can't have your cake and eat it too. You can't ***** about boundaries to a girl with a dude friend when you're insecure as fuvk for sleeping around on her.

 

[zekko]

Ling story short my girlfriend of 4 months has a best guy friend back in her home town. They have been friends for years. I know alot about him. I don't take him as a threat so far. He probably wishes he could be with her for sure.

File this under "Things I'm not going to deal with". I don't need that crap in my life. And if what you say is true about him pining for her, I wouldn't be a part of enabling that sad situation either.