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So, this may be left field for some but I was wondering a few things here.

Obviously during intercourse it is required the female submit to the male. The male must elicit the trust from a female that he may enter into her body and eject his seed, potentially leaving her with a 9month pregnancy and a child to raise. These are the workings in the hindbrain of the female which is why money is such a huge mating signal for men.

So does anybody have an explanation why it is that certain women may want to experience this to its most extreme? They not only want to permit a man to enter them and theoretically impregnate them (which somewhat leaves the female at his mercy, or at least her life in the coming few months, assuming she is not the wealthier party). In case wealth is not a differentiating factor, the man must have other qualities to indicate value in the form of physical strength, an imposing respectable aura, or in the worst case scenario, some beta quality indicating future support in other ways. If this is the case it is also likely she will take the seed of another.

It seems that female submissive women that are interested in BD$M are interested in experiencing this power differential to the fullest. They want to let go of their personal responsibilities for a short while by giving even the responsibility for her safety in the hands of another person. Combine this with sex and it becomes a slippery slope. Either party can become addicted to the rush of the power exchange, and it becomes an ego fuelling exercise.

The man's ego is inflated because a woman trusts him to such an extent and he is allowed to do what all of society has said is not allowed. The woman's ego is inflated because she is doing something naughty that other women can't do or won't allow done to them, and thus they find they have a newfound power over men.

This can become a very slippery slope which is why in BD$M it is often normal to use a contract in which the parties agree to a certain power exchange sexual relationship for a certain amount of time. In this contract it is then made clear what the rules are concerning infidelity and the time span over which the contract is valid (not legally of course).

This somehow strengthens the willingness of the submissive as it is written in a contract that her role is only temporary and that she may not engage in sexual contact with anyone else (for any self respecting dominant).

So this is a dynamic in which all of the woman's psychological boxes are ticked concerning attraction. She submits 100%. The man however must project an aura of control and levelheadedness to elicit trust. The female knows she will be replaced and will therefore will not cheat. In exchange for this seemingly onesided contract the female will learn to push a few of her sexual boundaries, helping her to learn how to satisfy and seduce men mentally, by being able to take everything the guy throws at them.

Within BD$M you find many female submissives who identify as brats. These are submissives who, in a nutshell, are also attention wh0res. I assume they have had experiences with weak dominants and thus have the habit of perpetually sh!ttesting the dominant in order to continually be punished, which they grow to enjoy. This leads the dominant to thus come to the conclusion that the only true punishment is to ignore the female altogether.
In the case they find a balanced, experienced, highly regarded dominant she may submit fully, mentally, physically, psychologically and sexually. If you have ever experienced anything like this, this too is a massive ego boost for a dominant. It is important in such a case to remain level-headed. It's somewhat akin to training a tiger instead of a dog. These women, when they lose respect, will feel as though they have been bamboozled. You must as a man therefore always remain imperturbable in the case of any instability.
It becomes a matter of management wherein you see through the female mind and simply act accordingly. In such a case, again, it is important not to over-inflate the ego. An overinflated ego is what the women use to maneuver you.

This is the irony of relationships and possibly the entire dynamic of psychosexual relationships in a nutshell.

Any questions or additional information?
 
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So, this may be left field for some but I was wondering a few things here.

Obviously during intercourse it is required the female submit to the male. The male must elicit the trust from a female that he may enter into her body and eject his seed, potentially leaving her with a 9month pregnancy and a child to raise. These are the workings in the hindbrain of the female which is why money is such a huge mating signal for men.

So does anybody have an explanation why it is that certain women may want to experience this to its most extreme? They not only want to permit a man to enter them and theoretically impregnate them (which somewhat leaves the female at his mercy, or at least her life in the coming few months, assuming she is not the wealthier party). In case wealth is not a differentiating factor, the man must have other qualities to indicate value in the form of physical strength, an imposing respectable aura, or in the worst case scenario, some beta quality indicating future support in other ways. If this is the case it is also likely she will take the seed of another.

It seems that female submissive women that are interested in BD$M are interested in experiencing this power differential to the fullest. They want to let go of their personal responsibilities for a short while by giving even the responsibility for her safety in the hands of another person. Combine this with sex and it becomes a slippery slope. Either party can become addicted to the rush of the power exchange, and it becomes an ego fuelling exercise.

The man's ego is inflated because a woman trusts him to such an extent and he is allowed to do what all of society has said is not allowed. The woman's ego is inflated because she is doing something naughty that other women can't do or won't allow done to them, and thus they find they have a newfound power over men.

This can become a very slippery slope which is why in BD$M it is often normal to use a contract in which the parties agree to a certain power exchange sexual relationship for a certain amount of time. In this contract it is then made clear what the rules are concerning infidelity and the time span over which the contract is valid (not legally of course).

This somehow strengthens the willingness of the submissive as it is written in a contract that her role is only temporary and that she may not engage in sexual contact with anyone else (for any self respecting dominant).

So this is a dynamic in which all of the woman's psychological boxes are ticked concerning attraction. She submits 100%. The man however must project an aura of control and levelheadedness to elicit trust. The female knows she will be replaced and will therefore will not cheat. In exchange for this seemingly onesided contract the female will learn to push a few of her sexual boundaries, helping her to learn how to satisfy and seduce men mentally, by being able to take everything the guy throws at them.

Within BD$M you find many female submissives who identify as brats. These are submissives who, in a nutshell, are also attention wh0res. I assume they have had experiences with weak dominants and thus have the habit of perpetually sh!ttesting the dominant in order to continually be punished, which they grow to enjoy. This leads the dominant to thus come to the conclusion that the only true punishment is to ignore the female altogether.
In the case they find a balanced, experienced, highly regarded dominant she may submit fully, mentally, physically, psychologically and sexually. If you have ever experienced anything like this, this too is a massive ego boost for a dominant. It is important in such a case to remain level-headed. It's somewhat akin to training a tiger instead of a dog. These women, when they lose respect, will feel as though they have been bamboozled. You must as a man therefore always remain imperturbable in the case of any instability.
It becomes a matter of management wherein you see through the female mind and simply act accordingly. In such a case, again, it is important not to over-inflate the ego. An overinflated ego is what the women use to maneuver you.

This is the irony of relationships and possibly the entire dynamic of psychosexual relationships in a nutshell.

Any questions or additional information?
The essence of male sexuality is to penetrate, whilst the essence of female sexuality is to submit.

Taken to its extreme, you have things like rape fantasies and BDSSSSSSSSSM etc. I think the bratty submissives are women that want a strong man and test like hell to make sure that´s really what they've got.
 

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I think the bratty submissives are women that want a strong man and test like hell to make sure that´s really what they've got.
Yeah.

They are women that want that.

Question is why do these women want that?
Why did they choose to look for these men in BDSSM?
What is it they can find in these relationships they can't find elsewhere?
What does this alternative dynamic reveal about regular relationships?
What does that mean for men in regular relationships?

I know this is all somewhat unwanted information, it used to be in the DSM-3 or so, but regardless, these relationships reveal a few things about the wants and needs of regular women.

Another few questions would be:

Are women that desire such a dynamic mentally, spiritually and emotionally mature?
Could you expect them to be emotionally stable?
Might they opt for this dynamic simply for escapist reasons? (To forget problems)
Might they just be in it for the sense of submission they can't find in regular day-to-day life because society tells them they can do all the things men can do?

I'm sure a higher percentage than usual out of them has been abused.

Would this help them to cope with that?
Should we as men consider this when encountering such a woman?
How should we deal with that?
Would it be wrong to be complicit in such acts?

Instead of ignoring this it may be smart to figure this out as it may lead to some insights. However unpleasant it may be.

Could it be comparable to the droves of women currently working through things like onlyfans as a result of the nihilistic commercialisation of women through media?
Or might they be looking for something particularly intimate?
 

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Yeah.

They are women that want that.

Question is why do these women want that?
Why did they choose to look for these men in BDSSM?
What is it they can find in these relationships they can't find elsewhere?
What does this alternative dynamic reveal about regular relationships?
What does that mean for men in regular relationships?

I know this is all somewhat unwanted information, it used to be in the DSM-3 or so, but regardless, these relationships reveal a few things about the wants and needs of regular women.

Another few questions would be:

Are women that desire such a dynamic mentally, spiritually and emotionally mature?
Could you expect them to be emotionally stable?
Might they opt for this dynamic simply for escapist reasons? (To forget problems)
Might they just be in it for the sense of submission they can't find in regular day-to-day life because society tells them they can do all the things men can do?

I'm sure a higher percentage than usual out of them has been abused.

Would this help them to cope with that?
Should we as men consider this when encountering such a woman?
How should we deal with that?
Would it be wrong to be complicit in such acts?

Instead of ignoring this it may be smart to figure this out as it may lead to some insights. However unpleasant it may be.

Could it be comparable to the nihilistic commercialisation of women leading so many of them to enter pornography or prostitution?
Or might they be looking for something particularly intimate?
I'm sure some women actually enjoy pornography and prostitution. In some way it validates them, especially if they get paid a lot of money. The fact that someone would pay for them makes them feel valuable.

I don't really care that much about trying to resolve other people's psychological problems. I certainly don't want to do so in a relationship.

If you just want to bang sluts it might be useful to try to understand, in general, why some of the women you meet behave in this way. Personally I don't like these things taken to an extreme, but I can kind of understand where it comes from.
 

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Yeah I also don't really want people with issues in my life. I have dealt with them though, that's why I am asking these questions.

Cheers.
 
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