"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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i have a woman messaging me more and i mean MORE im obviously busy doing exciting **** but im also not ignorant, i dated her last week and we had sex, weve arranged our 2nd date and i want to keep the interest there so face to face is better and shes gagging

surely theres only so many times you can use the "gotta go keep intouch" Ace card through text, shell happily chat my head off all night, though otherwise

im not a big believer in ignoring till the next day? plus surely she gets the read notification its not the 2000's anymore

but please advise
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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Just be busy, it's called having a life. If she doesn't get enough attention from you, she can text her orbiters, family, girl friends, etc. and if she calls you out on not replying all the time, simply say you're not a big texter...
 

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all women have orbiters ive dated her once dont quite get your point?, i do have a life doesnt mean i dont also have my phone but fair enough
 

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i dated her and ****ed her last week and since then her contact to me has snow balled i did say this tbf pmsl,
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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i was looking at it like shes clearly more interested and ive obviously done something right, i didnt want to deflate this but i also didnt want to play games and ignore her
 

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Right, on another thread I started it was deemed women with orbiters are de facto red flags.....
Thing is, Fruitbat, thanks to smart phone apps, women have a billion apps to choose from to get male validation.

Nearly all apps have a social element these days. Internet forums are still around, yet the attention isn't instant as it is with smart phone apps. Twitter, Facebook, Instagram and YouTube wouldn't be as huge if they weren't constantly buzzing social environments. It takes half a blink of an eye to fire of a "hey sup girl" text, then the guy just has to game, escalate tension to setup a meet and bang.

In a perfect world, women would drop orbiters, close OLD apps/site accounts as a relationship becomes more and more exclusive.

Women keep orbiters around for back up options as we often talk about here. They may distance themselves from them when the relationship gets serious, but just watch when you hit speed bumps in the road with increasing sh!t tests, flakey behavior, the man slips up, gets too attached, goes soft/beta, she'll start to give other orbiters IOIs the time of day.

We preach spin plates here because women are hardly ever completely monogamous in an exclusive relationship, she can still have emotional affairs with men at work, online, massive online gaming (if that's her thing), Words With Friends (is that scrabble app still popular? lol), etc. She'll just run them in the background discretely.

OP, didn't mean to go off trail, but I agree with your recent post, she has high interest-level. Manage accordingly, bud.
 
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