"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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why is my mom so money and are women really liek this

joe45

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today my mom who cleans ppls houses has been going to this guy and his wifes house both around late 20's -early 30's , the guy is white and the girl is e indian, guy has 2 cars a porsche and a merceds suv each like 150 000 and is moving into a 2.3 million or more house in a rich area.
my moms like woow this guy is rich and all and that his newly wedded wife must be very lucky to marry such a rich guy. thats all shes been braggin about at dinner and tellin my sis to marry a rich guy --ya now u get a better life this and that. "wow the house is so nice i would love to have it and live in it " ."joey's wife must be soo lucky ah jenny(my sis) make sure when u find a husband make sure he has a good job and is rich, it really makes all the difference in ur life".
ok are chinese girls or girls as a whole like this and also are u more willing to marry and date a non asian or go even out with the guy just b/c he is rich. it seems like they are gung ho about dating and marrying someone chinese-we are chinese , but if that person is rich like a doctor or just plain rich like owning a 2 million or more house -the guy is like an ok guy ahhhh who cares hes white or arab or what he sooo rich who cares. - my mom like -yea he has this and that and owns a niceee house.
why is my mom and folks all about money this and that-"john our neighbour owns a bmw x5-ya now hes in finance , joe why don;t u get into that, it makes a lotttt of $$$" its like that all they think about money money and money,

i really hope girls as a whole aren;t like this b/c i'm not rich and i don;t think i ever will be that rich as that joey guy-he seems like he inherited a loit of money-i have cousins around his age or even older who have degreees in various areas and they are not as wealthy as this Joey guy

we are not poor anyways my dad owns like 2 houses in middle class areas and we live like cheap skates-folks are so cheap. buy everything on sales and dirt cheap, even if its my own money they have a problem with me spending 20 or even less dollars for a hoody at old navy. loll
 

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Women are not all like that, but some definatly are. Its a cultural thing, but hardly one that is all encompasing. There are going to be girls that will only chase after images of money, and the rich girls are going to downright expect that a guy be well off. There are a whole lot of girls out there however that have no problem with the guy who doesnt want to spend $20 on a hoodie, since she's in the same boat.

Your mother just wants better lives for you, and she sees marriage or making $$$ as a way of doing that.

Hamno
 

Lost In Translation

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there is alot of truth in that Kanye West song Gold Digger

all women are the same

some will say they not about the $ but in the back of their mind it's ticking away looking at your future

some pretend it's about other things but at the end of the day it's like thier " all i want is a nice guy "

we know they say one thing but do another

some of the lyrics to gold digger

"18 years, 18 years
She got one of yo kids got you for 18 years
I know somebody payin child support for one of his kids
His baby momma's car and crib is bigger than his
You will see him on TV Any Given Sunday
Win the Superbowl and drive off in a Hyundai
She was spose to buy ya shorty TYCO with ya money
She went to the doctor got lypo with ya money
She walkin around lookin like Micheal with ya money
Should of got that insured got GEICO for ya moneeey
If you aint no punk holla We Want Prenup
WE WANT PRENUP!, Yeaah
It's something that you need to have
Cause when she leave yo ass she gone leave with half

18 years, 18 years
And on her 18th birthday he found out it wasn't his"

this information applies to western woman who are finished slutting around and are looking for a man to marry

western women who aren't finished slutting around yet will kick with anything with a theme


Lost In Translation :D

**AUSTRALIAN STREET PIMP**

" stop being insecure " i hate that saying. it's a cop out for not having enough balls to confront a woman about what she is doing THAT IS WRONG or potentially damaging to a long term relationship. – Lost In Translation
 

Joe The Homophobe

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I have mixed feelings about this.

While I do hate the materialistic mentality of modern women, I also understand the mother in this case that wants her daughter to marry a man that is financially stable. Put yourself in the parent's shoes. Do you want your daughter marrying some average mininum wage guy that works in a convenience store? or would you rather have her marry an engineer or someone with a career that ensures a financially stable future for her and the children?

I always said to myself that I will never marry unless I have a career that pays enough that my wife doesn't have to work, so she can stay home and take care of the kids full time like God intended :cool:

but now that I realize the above will probably not happen (unless I win the loterry), I will only marry if the woman has enough money for me not to work. Yup, change of plans! :D
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Chillisauce

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If your well off money-wise and dont want every gold-digging wh0re i suggest dressing down abit for your sarges, with no obvious signs that your $$. (but not tacky either, you can have style without the expensive watch)

I'v had to put up with alot of **** like this due to my money, such as girls pushing for LTR's after hearing i have a large trust fund.

for anyone wondering. i got this money from my grandfather not earning it like some other people on this board, so please dont pm me for money making advice or i'll suggest something like going back in time and telling your father to invest in yahoo.
 

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Money = Success or/and Stability Yeh they're gold diggas out there or professional daters that are out to get free dinners/etc - If you're a well seasoned DJ you should be able to repel these types so dunno what the fuss is all about.
 

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Money is VERY important in long term relationships, like marriage for example. Financial arguments are among the leading causes of divorces.

One of the problems with poor guys or lower class guys who work crap jobs cause they didn't believe in college or other forms of developing marketable skills, is that while their money is sufficient to date in the younger years, as their need for money increases when they want to buy a house, raise a kid or kids, go on vacations, etc. that their jobs are just not producing enough money.

People LOVE to live beyond their means. Everyone wants to get married in a nice place and take a honey moon, not to mention get engaged with a diamond ring. Those are very expensive things, but no one considers how they will pay for it. They just put it on their credit cards and this is a pattern that continues throughout marriage, hell even throughout single life.

Of course its easy to do that when you have less responsibilities. You can live off of Ramen for a monnth and pay down some bills, but when you live on your own and you are responsible for supporting a family, that job that pays maybe $30-35k a year (which seemed like a lot of money when you were young and single) just won't be cutting it anymore.

So the lesson here is definitley try to do the best you can out there. Don't believe the cliche of "as long as you like what you do money isn't that important". Liking what you do and money are not mutually exclusive. There has to be SOMETHING you like doing that ALSO makes good money.

As for women, just because they care about how much their guy makes doesn't mean their cold golddiggers, that just means they are aware of the fact that at some point in the future if they stay with the guy he will have to step up and help provide. If he's working a crappy job now and he isn't going to school or doesn't look like he has any potential for moving up in the forseeable future it is not unreasonable for a woman not to want to be with that guy for the long run.
 

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Need I provide the evolutionary standpoint on this?

It's perfectly logical that every single woman would be looking for long-term stability in a man. In our society, this means financial stability.

BUT REMEMBER, a woman's optimal strategy is to _MATE_ with a man who has good genes and _MARRY_ a man who has a good bank account.

It's the "lover versus provider" mentality.

As soon as you demonstrate to a woman that your financial status is one of your virtues, that doesn't directly speak to your genes, but it does speak to the fact that you're marriage material.

So decide which category you want to be in.

There's nothing wrong with being sexually appealing to women while also providing long term stability -- many women might think of this as the best of both worlds.

But remember, a woman who "loves" you for your money is really just using her sexual appeal to get long term stability from you. It's different than her _mating_ with a _lover_.
 

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If your parents came up from nothing, as immigrants to a new country, they will often tell stories of how life was back home. they will often stress the importance of money. This socially programs women to often look for a man that is rich because they dont want to go through what their parents have gone through.

You have nothing to worry about, not everyone thats chinese can be expected to be rich, with porches and million dollar houses, what pressure. Just be educated, thats your greatest tool.

why is my mom and folks all about money this and that-"john our neighbour owns a bmw x5-ya now hes in finance , joe why don;t u get into that, it makes a lotttt of $$$" its like that all they think about money money and money.

we are not poor anyways my dad owns like 2 houses in middle class areas and we live like cheap skates-folks are so cheap. buy everything on sales and dirt cheap, even if its my own money they have a problem with me spending 20 or even less dollars for a hoody at old navy. loll

You should try to understand where your parents are coming from, your parents are survivors, and thats why they act that way.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Actually, I'm going to chime in a bit more:

I never let women know my financial status. I make sure women are attracted to _ME_ first.

I am personally well-off. I'm a student, yet I have a new car, nice clothes, and I'll have a good job when I graduate.

So when they discover this, their attitude becomes, "oh, bonus"

That's the way you should look at anything in your life that you might want to brag about... make sure they don't find out about it at first, and it'll seem like a bonus later once you've qualified them.
 
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