"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Why getting a number doesn't mean $h!t

El Payaso

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I saw this post on a forum. A woman was asking if the guy in the post likes her.

"So recently this guy I knew from high school added me on Facebook. Let's call him Mike. We r both now in our late 20s so have not spoken for almost 10yrs. We hung out a few times in the past as I used to date one of his mates, but he left an impression on me I remembered thinking he was very cute.

Anyway we chatted for a while on fb and after a few weeks he finally asks me if I want to catch up. I gladly agree and on the day he brings a friend as well and asks me if its ok. I told him sure no prob ( as it wasn't a date or anything). Anyway he was super nice to me during our catch up we got along so well, he also insisted on paying for my drink. His friend lets call him Andrew, was also very nice. But when I had to leave Andrew asked for my number and said he'll invite me out sometime. I thought that was abit weird but gave him my number as I didn't want to be rude.

The next day mike msgs me and says hope to see me again soon, I reciprocate the sentiment. But I never hear from him again

Then 2 weeks later his mate Andrew calls me up and invites me to hang out with him and mike. So I go along and again the 3 of us get along like a house on fire. We talk about many things we can do together in the future like going to music festivals etc. during this meeting, I tried to pay for my own food but again mike insists to pay for me, I reach out to pay and he grabbed my hand and pushed it away saying no let me get it. Then he kept holding my hand for a while after that.
Then after he finally let go of my hand, we were standing side by side and he slipped his hand around the back of my waist, but removed it after only a few seconds. I was so excited coz I thought he was finally making a move on me. But that was all he did. No more touching for rest of the night.

Later while the 3 of us were eating his friend Andrew asked me if I wanted to have lunch tmr as we both work in the city but mike doesn't. I told him I was busy becasue I didn't want mike to feel left out. Besides I'd rather have lunch with him than Andrew.

In the end we talked about the 3 of us getting together next week to look at Xmas lights. I don't know if it will happen or not.

My question is does it sound like mike is interested in me? He has been passive n not asked me out but at the same time he insisted to pay for my meals and the flirtatious touching. Or does it sound like he only likes me as a friend ?

Thanks!"
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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Zapp Brannigan

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Interesting read.

These days a number doesn't mean anything. Women will give them out like candy to people who are practically strangers to them. Getting a number isn't something of an accomplishment like it once was, because now they have flocks of orbiters constantly texting, and commenting on their social media. Of course they're willing to give out their number so they can have another orbiter to laugh at.

Hard to believe things have changed so much in recent years. How it went from something to be celebrated https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X7PmTw1OCqQ to now a task any orbiter can do without problems.
 

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This was too funny. Andrew has 0 chances with her and is putting in the most effort. Mike is just casually flirting with her/showing her interest here and there and doing his own thing, and could bang this woman whenever he so chooses. By the sounds of it, Mike knows what he's doing, and Andrew needs to go fish in another pond.
 

El Payaso

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Eph said:
This was too funny. Andrew has 0 chances with her and is putting in the most effort. Mike is just casually flirting with her/showing her interest here and there and doing his own thing, and could bang this woman whenever he so chooses. By the sounds of it, Mike knows what he's doing, and Andrew needs to go fish in another pond.
Yup. What's even stranger is that Andrew could be more attractive than Mike but Mike is paying her the least attention so it drives her curiousity up. She interprets it as her attraction going up.

Another thing to notice is the excuse she gave Andrew. "She's busy". This is why they always say that a woman will move the heavens to make time for you as long as she is interested.
 

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Zapp Brannigan said:
Getting a number isn't something of an accomplishment like it once was
Great clip, thanks.
I wonder if the value inflation would also concern kisses. You sometimes see/hear people discussing the red lines for their partner in a LTR. Some think kisses with strangers are already a no-no. Some think making out is OK as long as it doesn't lead to sex. Some claim they even don't mind sex (Speaking for Europe).
Considering this, the whole shebang about "kc" and "nc" may be a legacy from the 1980s/1990s that is receiving way too much attention.
You guys have any thoughs on this?
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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