"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Why are women incapable of articulating what they want?

spinaroonie

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Something that's been on my mind for some time. Ask any woman what she wants in a guy and she'll invariably say the following - a nice guy, kind, caring, sensitive, treats me well.

DJs know this isn't what gets her panties wet.

On the flip side, ask any guy what he wants and almost every guy will say the same - stay slim, suck my ****, make me a sandwich, don't talk so much. Simple, honest, direct, straightforward. Any woman who meets this criteria won't be starving for company.

Now imagine if women, like men, had the capacity to articulate what it is that they *truly* desired. It'll spare us men from a lot of disinformation, heartache and misery. This forum probably wouldn't exist.

So why is it that women *can't* articulate what makes her wet. Why can't a woman articulate that if you neg, DHV, qualify, act ****y and funny, and tell me a few comfort stories, I will feel attracted to you. Why does it take other men to articulate to men what women want?

We all know women don't know what they want. Question is, why can't they tell us what they really want? Is this just a colossal evolutionary shyt test to weed out the true alphas from the betas?
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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spinaroonie said:
We all know women don't know what they want. Question is, why can't they tell us what they really want? Is this just a colossal evolutionary shyt test to weed out the true alphas from the betas?
Because if they told us what they really want then we would know and as a result we would not be fun to screw with anymore. If I knew something, why would I tell you??? Then we would both know. Meaning I would lose power to you.
 

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When you ask women for advice on what women want, you learn two things. Everything and nothing. They say what you stated above and they do get wet over a movie star. Getting in with some women is like trying to get into Harvard Med School with a 1.6 GPA!

To become a successful fisherman, ask a fisherman who knows what the hell he's doing (Put live shrimp on the hook and watch those babies swim to you!), not a fish.

Women go off feelings. They want to know what you have to offer.
 

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why does it matter?
we know the truth

it keeps the other guys in the the AFC corner ... which mean more women for us
 

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Women are the absolute masters of communication. They'd have no problems communicating.

If only they had a clue about what they want. Haha.

Personally, I think women never really want anything. There are plenty of things she'd like, but she'd never have the drive for getting that. There are certain things they NEED. You can bet she'll get herself that what she needs, unless she absolutely cannot help it...
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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If you asked a carpenter questions about the universe and black holes and white dwarves and all sorts of astrological nonsense, he'd obviously have no clue what to say.

If you ask a woman what they want, it's basically the same situation as above.

They can't articulate something they know nothing about.
They know that they love how women are treated in romantic movies, but when it comes to their own lives, they are clueless.
 

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its a system they develop to avoid responsibility. They feel damn well what they want but they create an image of themselves of not knowing what they want so they are able to project it believably and so create the impression of ignorance
 

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spinaroonie said:
Something that's been on my mind for some time. Ask any woman what she wants in a guy and she'll invariably say the following - a nice guy, kind, caring, sensitive, treats me well.

DJs know this isn't what gets her panties wet.
The thing is though,I think that most women really believe that they want a "nice,kind,caring,sensitive guy" who treats them well,but I think they believe it because that's what they've been taught by society and by their parents.


That's what they've been taught,but they're S and R programming conflicts with that teaching.



So if you ask them what they want,they'll say what tv,movies,fairytales,and their parents have taught them,but when they ACTUALLY get turned on to a guy,or that is,when they come across a guy who exhibits behaviors they've been programmed to respond to,they get confused because the guys they're attracted to ARE NOTHING LIKE the guys the movies/tv shows/and their parents have told them to want.


spinaroonie said:
So why is it that women *can't* articulate what makes her wet. Why can't a woman articulate that if you neg, DHV, qualify, act ****y and funny, and tell me a few comfort stories, I will feel attracted to you. Why does it take other men to articulate to men what women want?
I think it's because women are emotional,and feelings and emotions change,where as we guys are attracted to the physical,and the physical remains the same over long periods of time.


If you like big boobs and a girl has big boobs,you'll be attracted to her. When one week has passed,she'll still have big boobs,so you'll still be attracted.



With women,it fluxuates. If a man exihibits strong,agressive,masculine behavior that makes her feel safe,she'll be attracted to him,but if he has some type of accident to where his face was scarred,or lost a high-paying job and has to take one for less money and now he feels insecure because of his looks or his decreased ability to afford most expensive things,the strong,agressive behavior he had in the beginning (which attracted the girl) will be gone,and so will her attraction to him.


And the crazy part is she won't even know why she feels different. All she knows is at one point,she was turned on to the guy,and now for some reason,she's not.


She can't articulate it because it's a FEELING.


Personally,I think women do know what they want,but like you said,they just can't put it into words.


All they know is this....whatever it is they want....


When it's there,THEY KNOW IT,and
When it's not there,THEY KNOW IT,but....

what "IT" is.....they can't put into words.


They can't put into words what they want,but THEY KNOW when they have "it" with a guy or not.
 

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Women are hard-wired to get sperm from 'bad boys' while having one or more 'good guy' males around to help raise the child. But our social system doesn't make 'good guys' raise the children of 'bad boys.' Therefore society tries to convince women that they're really sexually attracted to 'good guys.' It tries very, very hard, because otherwise you have a lot of kids running around with deadbeat dads (bad boys don't make for good fathers.)

Thus, you have a schism in most womens' brains--their deep primitive mind wants bad boys but their more advanced, socialized mind wants good guys. This makes them totally unable to articulate what they really want. To others and to themselves.
 

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They want that, the problem is that they don´t feel attracted to that type of guys...
That´s why the majority of women feels frustrated with their relationships, because they can´t feel attracted to guys that would give to them a fulfilling life... Why? Because although women want those nice guy qualities in a man they forget to tell the most important of all, they want emotions and drama!
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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