Why are there so many dudes in the PUA/Game community that don't have their sh*t together?

[SW15]

That's why I think it's silly advice to tell guys not to pursue women until they get their sh*t (career, education, health etc.) together. It's like saying don't go to the gym until you're jacked. A guy can focus on more than one thing. Obviously there are times when women go on the back burner but a guy should be improving in multiple facets.

I think it is better for a guy to have more facets of his life organized than not organized.

Looks are generally #1. @BPH is one of the top seducers on this board based on being 6'0", 200 lbs, muscle definition but lower body fat, and good facial aesthetics. @BPH is about to turn 30 and lives at home in a mid-sized mating market in the shadow of a much bigger market. With all of that, he has put up a notch count of 90+.

There are plenty of guys who earn solid incomes who are generally ignored by women. These aren't necessarily STEM nerds either. Plenty of men in non-technical business careers are virtually invisible to women despite making a middle class level income. These are men who are able to afford at least an adequate one bedroom apartment in a larger city.

 

[Manure Spherian]

That's why I think it's silly advice to tell guys not to pursue women until they get their sh*t (career, education, health etc.) together.

This reminds me of every other jack@ssy red-pill guru.

“I got another caller on the line. Hey buddy, what’s up?”

“I’m hurting bro; I got no chicas.”

“How much dough are you bringing in?”

“60k.”

“Alright, solve that. Open up a business. Become a gorillionaire.”

“Thanks.”

I wonder if the men I grew up with who were screwing around in their teenage years had to monetarily prove themselves to get action. my guess is most men lost their virginity without having one red cent to their name. I didn’t. And when I was single, the most memorable four-month fling I had, what I call “porn come to life,” occurred after I was laid off from my job at a hospital that closed. This woman earned far more than I did.

I actually think this red-pill call for all men to become entrepreneurs and “self-made” is stupid and maladaptive.

 

[Skotuspumpminor]

>The problem is chix these days don't have high testosterone

 

[CornbreadFed]

There are plenty of guys who earn solid incomes who are generally ignored by women. These aren't necessarily STEM nerds either. Plenty of men in non-technical business careers are virtually invisible to women despite making a middle class level income. These are men who are able to afford at least an adequate one bedroom apartment in a larger city.

It’s not impossible because I could easily get a 100 plus notch count right now if I wanted to even with a decent paying job. However, this is not within in my best interest and I would rather put my energy and money in to other things. @BPH just has other priorities.