Went to the club at a bad time, but still got to practice some game. Talked to this girl and some how I managed to get her to go in a corner with me and talk. During that whole convo, her friend bugged her 4 times to leave. What is up with this? Also, how do you isolate girls from groups.
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When talking to women, how do you fight their friends
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youngmack
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I mean i think you isolated her when you got her to move into a corner with you to talk.....
The answers to the OP would help not only him, but also other forum followers. It's spontaneous way to learn something new. For example someone could get into similar situation like original posters and could handle it better just because someone somewhere created a thread and you had checked it out. Cheers.Sofomore said:
"I just moved here from Florida."
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
cablecow15
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The other day I was at this lunch-type bar downtown and had a similar experience. A woman I decided to hit on was with 3 others. She wasn't the "alpha" b1tch of the group, and if they were hungry, I didn't think I had any chance to pull her away from the henhouse. So I waited for her to go the the bathroom and made my move when she was returning.
The others must have seen what was happening b-cuz all of a sudden she's getting texts every few seconds. She can't resist, and her attention is completely distracted. She wanders back to her group completely oblivious of anything else. All 3 had their phones out, so it was obvious where the texts came from.
I'm from the generation before pagers and cell phones. It's just plain disgusting to me that c0ckblocking can be done by remote control to the Borg Attention Implant. I'm seriously thinking about buying one of those pocket cellphone jammers. I mean it. I could just carry it around in my jacket, and leave it on until my business is completely finished with the woman and I'm back in my car.
Pretty much anyone nowadays is far more likely to put the in-person conversation on hold and prioritize answering the phone. That's just rude. It might be more rude to jam communications, but hey, all's fair in love and war.
BTW, if a personal cellphone jammer is the answer found in other threads, I apologize in advance. (Kinda doubt it will be, though.)
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I am not her man. She can't stand the thought of me touching her. She's dripping with other men's semen. She is ashamed to be seen with me. She never misses an opportunity to disrespect me. Everything I do is wrong. I am the problem. She got what she wanted from me. She says "I hate you so much I could kill you." Going away forever will make her happy again. So I'm leaving her to her pumped-and-dumped lifestyle and leaving her bastard child fatherless. I'd be better off with no woman at all than wasting another second thinking about her. I learned from my mistakes and the next relationship will be done with planning for my happiness.
The others must have seen what was happening b-cuz all of a sudden she's getting texts every few seconds. She can't resist, and her attention is completely distracted. She wanders back to her group completely oblivious of anything else. All 3 had their phones out, so it was obvious where the texts came from.
I'm from the generation before pagers and cell phones. It's just plain disgusting to me that c0ckblocking can be done by remote control to the Borg Attention Implant. I'm seriously thinking about buying one of those pocket cellphone jammers. I mean it. I could just carry it around in my jacket, and leave it on until my business is completely finished with the woman and I'm back in my car.
Pretty much anyone nowadays is far more likely to put the in-person conversation on hold and prioritize answering the phone. That's just rude. It might be more rude to jam communications, but hey, all's fair in love and war.
BTW, if a personal cellphone jammer is the answer found in other threads, I apologize in advance. (Kinda doubt it will be, though.)
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I am not her man. She can't stand the thought of me touching her. She's dripping with other men's semen. She is ashamed to be seen with me. She never misses an opportunity to disrespect me. Everything I do is wrong. I am the problem. She got what she wanted from me. She says "I hate you so much I could kill you." Going away forever will make her happy again. So I'm leaving her to her pumped-and-dumped lifestyle and leaving her bastard child fatherless. I'd be better off with no woman at all than wasting another second thinking about her. I learned from my mistakes and the next relationship will be done with planning for my happiness.
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Had the same problem many times and found out that things to do are possibly two.
1)When I approach a group of girls like 2 or 3 girls sitting in a sofa at the club I talk no only with the one I like but all of them, the fat one too deserve as much attention as the cute one, this way the whole group have a good allignment toward me, I dont make compliment or try to kiss their asses just funny conversation about how the dj sucks and how he should join the army instead etc
2)When instead I approach a girl singularly so her friends dont know me or when I get a negative responce in scenario 1, right after isolation I make fun of her friends coming, I usualy say smt like "listen u're good looking but I like ur friend more, forget me2 (c/f of course).
When the texts arrive you either convince her that they are envious of her or worried for no reason (you succeed in convincing her according her interest level) or you simply take a risk and get her number while you send her back to her friends.
You can open again if she isolates herself like going to toilet or get the drinks(again she does it on purpose if she likes you) or you can text telling her where you are and see if it works.
Otherwise you start working on her just like other girls you get cell nr.
1)When I approach a group of girls like 2 or 3 girls sitting in a sofa at the club I talk no only with the one I like but all of them, the fat one too deserve as much attention as the cute one, this way the whole group have a good allignment toward me, I dont make compliment or try to kiss their asses just funny conversation about how the dj sucks and how he should join the army instead etc
2)When instead I approach a girl singularly so her friends dont know me or when I get a negative responce in scenario 1, right after isolation I make fun of her friends coming, I usualy say smt like "listen u're good looking but I like ur friend more, forget me2 (c/f of course).
When the texts arrive you either convince her that they are envious of her or worried for no reason (you succeed in convincing her according her interest level) or you simply take a risk and get her number while you send her back to her friends.
You can open again if she isolates herself like going to toilet or get the drinks(again she does it on purpose if she likes you) or you can text telling her where you are and see if it works.
Otherwise you start working on her just like other girls you get cell nr.
My take on it is if the friends can c0ckblock you easily, well, she either driving those girls home, or she really wasn't interested in the first place.
I was out today (friday night) and I meet this chick. She was with 3 friends. One of them left, the other one was follow her. They lose eachother and I decided to talk to the target and dance. After a while, we started making out on the dancefloor :rockon:
The whole time she like: I can't leave my friend and blablabla. I told her just say you are lost or something. And she actually left with me !
The rest was history
soooo...
A girl that was interested won't let the group of friends stop you...
I was out today (friday night) and I meet this chick. She was with 3 friends. One of them left, the other one was follow her. They lose eachother and I decided to talk to the target and dance. After a while, we started making out on the dancefloor :rockon:
The whole time she like: I can't leave my friend and blablabla. I told her just say you are lost or something. And she actually left with me !
The rest was history
soooo...A girl that was interested won't let the group of friends stop you...
"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"
When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.
Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.
Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.
The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.
powpow
Senior Don Juan
If it took your chick's friend 4 attempts to get her to leave, then you probably doing something right.
when that happens to me, I kind of downplay it and be like ohhhh you have to leave, you have a curfew? type babying tactic. anyway bla bla bla that friend isnt getting attention so she wants to leave. kiss close that **** and get her number.
usually stuff like that, they enter together they leave together. my experience says its really hard to mess with that dynamic, so just close, leave an impression, and then call her up and get her on a date without her friends.
end problemo
when that happens to me, I kind of downplay it and be like ohhhh you have to leave, you have a curfew? type babying tactic. anyway bla bla bla that friend isnt getting attention so she wants to leave. kiss close that **** and get her number.
usually stuff like that, they enter together they leave together. my experience says its really hard to mess with that dynamic, so just close, leave an impression, and then call her up and get her on a date without her friends.
end problemo