"The Kiss of Death Mistake"

You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?

Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.

One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.

Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.

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when is it enough?

tony-montana

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this girl and i been talking online for about two weeks or so now. i've asked to meet her and one day she says yeah the next no... she has perfect oppurtunities to meet me, her parents live right near me and so do her friends, so shes constantly up and down my way (she doesnt live around me - bout hour away) - and whenever i tell her to meet and hang out. she pulls that immature crap on me and plays games by ignoring me for abit then replying after or saying like "hmmm no" but when we talk dirty its okay? but now shes goin out to get drunk or whatever and she'll have the chance to come down my way but just doesnt wanna meet (she has said she wanted to meet me. and she says im hot)

shes always jealous about my facebook cause igot alot of girls talkin to me and stuff. she wont even fuking give me her number? i just blocked her on msn. is that the right thing to do? just forget about her?

or should i msg her saying: "contact me when ur ready to meet and stop playing games. goodbye. <my number>."

or is it okay to still be online just ignore her?

??? shes very hot and i would very much like to fuk her but not with all these games shes playing with me.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Jariel

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My advice would be to ignore her and move on. She sounds unreliable and has all the traits of an attention wh0re.

There are some good responses in this thread that also apply here:

http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=173147

Remember, if a girl wants to be with you she will make it easy, and even though it's the guys responsibility to make the move, she will create the opportunities for you to do so. If not, then move on and save yourself a lot of time and trouble.
 

tony-montana

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and what if one day after deleting her contact and all she msgs me on facebook or something asking to meet. should i still ignore her? what do i tell my friends that talk to her.. she'll ask them to ask me why i did what i did? doesn't deleting her from msn and facebook, etc... make me look like im upset and that she got to me?
 

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Just ignore - until she initiates.

Don't bother deleting. If she says hi, say hi back once and ask her what she has to tell you 'Hey... what you gotta tell me' and ignore any further questions/replies even the old yawn 'aren't you talking to me'. Wait until she offers to meet. She knows what you want and is seeing how long she can string it out.

Any of your mates ask, just say you've been too busy to talk to her. If they say crap such as 'she's into you' or anything like that, just say 'cool', then nothing gets back to her and she'll start to wonder. Also start focusing on other chicks. The effort here is beginning to be more than the gains.
 

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The problem is you´re showing too much interest. Showing too much interest to a gal is never good, least of all to an AW (which is like she´s acting).

Man, there are thousand of girls you can meet on-line and even in person. She´s playing games and craves your attention. Start acting like someone who deserves all her attention. The other option is to simply ignore her.

Focus on several gals, man and show her you´re the man!
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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tony-montana

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i have been ignoring her since last night. she's been messaging me with youtube links n stuff.. then finally she said:


her said (10:36 PM):
hey u there?
her said (10:36 PM):
??????
her said (10:36 PM):
?????
her said (10:36 PM):
????
her said (10:36 PM):
??
her said (10:36 PM):
?
me said (10:39 PM):
hey whats up
her said (10:39 PM):
not much im at ma folks place
her said (10:41 PM):
your being a bit of a snob
her said (10:41 PM):
did i say something wrong
her said (10:49 PM):
*hello?
her said (10:55 PM):
*wtf?

so NOW she tells me shes at her parents house? she could of told me earlier on so we could meet. maybe shes just lying to see if i would reply cause she knows how bad i wanna meet her and her parents live right near me. she doesn't. still ignore her?

she said shes gonna block me just before heh. maybe im pushin it

update: blocked me on msn and deleted me off facebook.
 

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update: blocked me on msn and deleted me off facebook.
Damn, that was quick. Maybe she reads the DJ forum.
 

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Do you give a sh!t about that?

Hey, she simply acts as an AW, wanted attention and when you stop doing that (I could have something important that did not allow you to answer) she acts like this! Seems to be playing games, to see what you do after that. So, screw her!

Man, focus on other gals soon.
 

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It is clear you have invested too much into this girl already and through your post I sense a fear of losing this one that you haven't even met yet! She is not worth your time, don't waste time bothering to even chat to girls on msn. You are 25, no need to spend any time on msn. You should have nexted her after she didn't even give you her number.

If you had an abundance of women this issue would be a non-issue and she would be chasing you.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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