“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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The_Wolf

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Situation- Moved back to my home country this week. (from the US), when I was here in Jan. I met this girl (3 years younger- im 18 shes 15..but we hit it off). We chilled twice (it was before I was introduced to Suave..) acted a bit of AFC but she was still attracted to me. We kept in touch on MSN and did not act AFC at all, (since I actually learned something from being on this forum). Anyway, she always told me how I should meet her the first day I land, and that we need to chill and she wants to hang out with me more and less with her messed up friends.

So I texted her 1 day after I arrived (wendsday I sent it). I never got a reply back. All I said was "its me ****, I'm in [our home town]". Later that night she messaged me on MSN asking me how my roadtest was and what's up and everything. I asked her why she didn't answer to my text and she said her cell was stolen by her druggie friend or some sh!t. I played it cool and just told her that when she gets it back tomorrow (thursday), she'll text me back.

Well...she never did.
I decided to close off any communication with her. Meaning I'll still have her cell #, still log in on MSN, but not initiate anything with her. Isn't the ball in her court?

It's still bothering me though. Such a big change in moods, or she really never got her cell back. I'm really intrigued by this girl, and usually it wouldn't happen, b/c a major rule for the DJ is to spin a few plates right? So I have another girl that I met when I was here in Jan. She is super-cute. Innocent, never been kissed...2 years younger than me. She is definitely giving me IOI (example- sending me "good night" text at 11:30)..but she doesn't have any experience at all, and that's what is repelling me. (unlike the other girl, she's been around a bit, mostly when she's drunk).

Anyway..looking for some input..

Snow, Docs, JJ...and any other worthy poster, please leave a message.

Thanks.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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The_Wolf,

Basically you need to back off the first girl because she seems to have lots of problems, which could effectively become -your- problems if you get involved with her.

The other girl is nice and all, but if anything happens with her she will become extremely clingy.

Also Wolf, you are 18 man, I know the young girls are nice and all but if anything goes down you can get busted for that kind of stuff in most states (be surprised what parents will do when they find out their little 'princess' has been busy), even if you have consent. It might be time to find girls your 'own age'. If you are not in the states I suppose fair game though, just speaking from second hand experience.

Hope this helps, keep your head up, stay positive, and try to find more than two polar opposite young ones.
 

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Your post is a little too vague to get any real specific advice/criticism. I'd just remember that girls can be flakey. Also, whenever you don't see a girl for an extended period of time, a lot of things can happen (regardless of whether or not you communicate online).

Something similar happened to me last year with a younger girl (high school yenior) who asked me to her prom around mid-february via email. I tried to stay in touch with her somewhat (but in a cool manner) but by the time the event finally came around, she ended up being totally flakey/*****y. So I ended up leaving her there...
 

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Kreuz- First of all- the age issue. Here in Israel the law that an 18 man can't have sex with a woman under 18 is also in the books. So I understand your concern. And yes, I should find girls my age..and I probably will (from the friends high school), but these were just 2 other girls that I met by myself (well, the first 1 by myself, the other one through a family friend I guess). Soon, more plates will be spinning hopefully.


Obsidian- True. I was too vague. The first girl, really into me as far as I knew..she loved the whole C&F, even though most was on MSN. She was expecting me to come back..and overall I think she actually liked me. besides, me being in college at the age of 17 and a half turned her on.

The thing is, she's a bit weird. If I got it right, she has some kind of drug & alcohol problem..maybe not an actual problem, but she does smoke weed (which I don't encourage) and drink heavily (which I don't have a problem with, but by the stories she used to tell me, she drinks way too much. to the level that she starts crying with her friends, you know that sh!t...). But even though she sounds fvcked up, I believe that I can put her on a better path. Get her out of her messed up friends circle and hang out with me more (which will have a good influence on her). She even said it herself.

It just seems weird that she all of a sudden closed contact..I mean, she was really expecting me. So on one hand, maybe she's not interested anymore. Which is fine, fvck her..I'll find another. But on the other hand, maybe she didn't get her cell back, which is why she didn't text me yet (but then again, she does have my MSN.) So I could Next her..but maybe I still shouldn't, since I am not sure of the reasons she "nexted" me yet. ( Lol came out a bit complicated)

The innocent girl- she is far hotter than the first girl. Like an untouched angel. Nice chest, good body..goes to the gym..(which I like- I work out as well and keep in shape- we laughed about stories from the gym). But she is just too shy and as of right now, I just don't have enough motivation/drive/want to go get her. B/c I know she will be (some what, or a lot) of work before she will open up. Even though she actually likes me. (She has strict Russian parents [ not saying anything against Russians, but her parents are very strict])
 

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well, it's a really bad sign if she's lying to you at all (regarding the cell phone, I mean)

But considering she did msg you on msn the very night that you txt'ed her, i don't really see why you even made a deal of it. If she were blowing you off for 24+ hours that'd be one thing, but it sounds like she wasn't trying to ignore you. You could have easily asked her out over msn. (in fact, you still could probably give that a shot before you write her off).

There's no telling what might happen to a cell phone...I don't keep track of mine all that well or always check my msgs either. (of course, that's 'cause no one ever calls me, but w/e...)

I'd say work on asking out both chicks asap.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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It's less of a matter of "asking out" both of them..its more of actually setting up the date. I'm pretty busy this weekend (party..) and next week is all military screening exams..so that's why I hoped to chill with the first girl yesterday or 2 days ago. They both know we need and are about to hang out in the near future... ( get what I mean?).

But yes, the fact that she did msg me that night..should say something. But my friend (about the only friend I talk to girls about) says to me that I should forget about the first girl with the cellphone, and that its a really bad excuse and screw her.

I erased her from MSN a week ago..got pissed at her (didn't really show it) so just deleted her(also to keep me from over-msging her, which will reduce her interst in me..so I just keep it cool). From now on the MSN convos will be initiated by her only (though I still kept her actual cell #). So its really up in the air if she's bullsh!tting me or not.
 

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just ****in throw urself in her house like hit her up and say your mom kicked out of her house and u need a place to stay...sleep in the bed together and start grinding on her ass..
 

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Wolf, Your sweating your ass for no fvcking reason. I was in Russia for some time and they are the easiest gals on the planet. You just need to take them out for a drink, drop in some CF jokes, act high status and it is all downhill from there. You see Russian gals might act the part but deep inside they are just low status babes with zero education and my dog in this african jungle could speak better English than them. I love this fvcking game ánd when you start loving it you'll start getting better. Approach anxiety is a thing of the past. we ( YOU) need to sarge models , this is where you know that you got game and tight skill set.It's gonna be hard but definitely worth it...now do i hear a cheer from the fellow sosuave audience or am i just thumping ma king kong skills here, lol
How long has she stayed in America or wherever you are holled ?
 

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MacDiddy said:
I heard chicks in Israel sleep around like theres no tomorrow....

Am I right???
:eek: thats true dude, so wanna pitch camp there :yes:
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Lol thanks for the comments guys. (BTW the russian chick grew up in Israel so she's not the typical russian, even though she knows the lang.)

A quick update.

The chick that played games with me with the cellphone and MSN sh!t? well she had her # changed, and only told me about it friday afternoon.

So I called her up around 8 and told her I'm going to a friends party. She said she is too. She asked me what street and it turned to be the house across the street from my friends house. Anyway, I had a few beers at my pal's, and she had a few shots at her friends house...and we met outside (Both parties were pretty lame).

Great Kino...touched her all over, and she touched me. The only place she aggressively didn't let me "touch" was her stomach..b/c I C&F about her beer belly (which she doesn't have..but she drinks a lot). Anyway..we chilled for a few hours...laughing and grabbing each other and ****. Her hammered friends were all around us so I guess that's the reason I didn't Kiss-close. As the night progressed..we broke off contact b/c she was going to get one of her friends that lives near by..and had to help her drunk friend to walk or some crap..I figured she'll be back soon..So I chilled with a few of my buddies. After she came back, she was either still drunk or really tired, so she didn't sit next to me, even though I told her to. (she usually follows my orders).

From there on I played it cold. We were all about to leave, and we have the same walk-route to our houses..and she told me to wait up while her friends get ready, but I just left. 4 minutes into my walk I get a text from her "Where are you?". I called her, but it went right into her voicemail. I texted her saying I'm on my way home, and that was that. I think I called one more time during the walk home but again- voice mail.

To sum it up-

Really good kino...She is totally comfortable with me. (even without alcohol in her system).
By the end of the night- she got a bit cold towards me.
In general, weird a$s girl.

I'm thinking I should not talk to her again and just let it go. Focus more on the Nice Russian girl, and that's about it.

:) Sound off..
 

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Russian gals will always be russian at heart so next time u pull this trick " fake u have a b/day and its guna be the two of you" then when she gets there make sure u have all ready, drinks, wine, whisky and then run ur game on her. then i assure you that she will be wholly yours no distractions or whatever. I used to pull such pranks in Moscow and it always paid off.
Oooh my love the russians.....ONS within 30 minutes of game plus cheap beer, and its legal to drink beer while walking or sitted on streets/parks or just travellign so long as you dont drive.
 

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dont take this game too long or she'll get soo bored with your game okay? next time say " Priviet dorogaya" it means hi baby? and tap those cute bums....eastern women are gd lookign as opposed to western women who let go and be manly and soo ful of shyt,lol
 

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lol, it's true, they seriously have no morals in Russia. And half the male population is in prison so if you're well-adjusted you have an advantage. ;)
 

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morals in russia!!

Obsidian said:
lol, it's true, they seriously have no morals in Russia. And half the male population is in prison so if you're well-adjusted you have an advantage. ;)
All eastern europe women are as easy as take away chips and pizza so Wolf we are all awaiting your final submissions and no more whining...oooh she doh wanna let me tap her belly and all that crap ok? :crackup:
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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