"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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What do you think is up with this girl

nonchalant

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What do you think is going on with this girl:

I went out with this girl a couple of times last year, the farthest we've gone is made out. She started emailing me, and we recently started talking again.

We have gone out once in the past month. I'd like to go out w her again, but most of the time I have trouble setting something up with her.

She is a hard person to figure out, or get hold of. She is never online and doesn't have a cell phone.

For the past couple of weeks, I have been trying to set up some kind of date.

This is what usually happens -
I call her during the week to set up a date. I get her machine, sometimes I leave a message, sometimes I don't. She doesn't call me back.
A few days go by, I get depressed and about to give up on her, then - she calls me back and acts like nothing happened, a couple of times she has invited me to go out and do stuff with her like wine tastings, but I was busy so couldn't go.
Then we hang up, and I try her back again later on, and we repeat this all over again.
This has happened like 3 weeks in a row.

I'd like to go out with this girl again and hopefully start making out w her again, I wish I knew what she were thinking. Fyi - she was like this last year too, I think this is just how she is. What do you think is going on? I like this girl, but this situation is driving me nuts. Everytime I think, ok this sucks, I can't mess around with someone like this, she calls me up and invites me out and I start crushing on her again.

What do you think is going on with her?
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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djbr

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Man, this is from the MASTER:

Rollo Tomassi said:
Women with high IL wont confuse you. When a woman wants to fukk she'll find a way to fukk. If she's fluctuating between being into you and then not, put her away for a while and spin other plates. If she sorts it out for herself and pursues you, then you are still playing in your frame and you maintain the value of your attention to her. It's when you patiently while away your time wondering wht the magic formula is that'll bring her around that you lean over into her frame.
Amen.
 

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