"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Well here it is...I have this girl that was basically telling all her friends that she was crazy about me and all that. Her friends told me, and so when we were at clubs and stuff the girl and I hung out together and looked like a couple. I screwed her over with a couple of different girls cause she wasn't putting out over the past few months. I thought she was gone for good, but I was still hearing that she liked me so I started calling her back up and meeting at places. The girl finally asked me to take her on a "real date" and when I agreed she had excuses not to go on a couple of occassions. She has told me before that she doesn't like to have a boyfriend cause she likes to do what she wants to do. So right now things are sortof cold between us but we still talk when we bump into eachother. I've seen her out with other guys and she has seen me with other girls. Well, I don't know of anyone that has F***** her but some , including me, have come very close. What method should I use to land this hottie in bed and getherdone? I've tried a lot of ****y stuff and nice stuff. She is diffinitly acting flaky at the moment...
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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get her drunk, she'll be done after that

Too young? too bad.
 

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thanks for the replies. well, she drinks like a fish so that hasn't worked. This is more of a long term challenge for me with this girl (cause noone knows of anybody she has screwed). far as she knows Im not even thinking about her. So what I guess Im asking is..how should I go about this longterm game I've got for her. r there any good tricks left or is this girl just a wierd duck like that. Im thinking the later....
 

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You need to start being more Manly or more aggressive. Have you tried to get her into a compromising postion as of yet. Ask her to come over to hang, and when she does go for it. If shes makes up a crazy reason you should always be able to retort quickly. Keep pushing forward. Whatever excuse she gives for no you should give a reply too. Never stop. As a man you should be able to outwit her.
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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when I agreed she had excuses not to go on a couple of occassions
If you didn't say something to her along the lines of her needing to respect your time well then you allready lost. Whenever a girl gives you an excuse, and keep in mind **** does happen but have an intuition to tell, then you need to call her out on it. First thing I do is I pause on the phone. She'll usually say "Are you there, hello?" I'll say "Yeah I just can't beleive the bull**** I'm hearing." Then I use this technique that works like gold but it is a little harsh so eat your wheaties.

- Look...you made a commitment to spend time with me and now you're blowing me off. You're disrespecting me and disrespecting my time and I'm NOT going to put up with it. My rule is, if someone makes a commitment to me, I expect them to keep it. If they can't keep it, I need to know at least a day in advance so I can make other plans. Got it? If you can live with that rule, great...if not, sayanora! -

Hang up right then and there.

If her IL was really there you'll get a call back. I've even had a girl who wasn't that much interested suddenly call me back asking to meet me at so-so on a friday night!

If you don't get a call back guess what? You actually kept your dignity! Congrats.
 

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Originally posted by RedKnight04
If you didn't say something to her along the lines of her needing to respect your time well then you allready lost. Whenever a girl gives you an excuse, and keep in mind **** does happen but have an intuition to tell, then you need to call her out on it. First thing I do is I pause on the phone. She'll usually say "Are you there, hello?" I'll say "Yeah I just can't beleive the bull**** I'm hearing." Then I use this technique that works like gold but it is a little harsh so eat your wheaties.

- Look...you made a commitment to spend time with me and now you're blowing me off. You're disrespecting me and disrespecting my time and I'm NOT going to put up with it. My rule is, if someone makes a commitment to me, I expect them to keep it. If they can't keep it, I need to know at least a day in advance so I can make other plans. Got it? If you can live with that rule, great...if not, sayanora! -

Hang up right then and there.

If her IL was really there you'll get a call back. I've even had a girl who wasn't that much interested suddenly call me back asking to meet me at so-so on a friday night!

If you don't get a call back guess what? You actually kept your dignity! Congrats.
I keep so busy that things like this dont really phase me. If she dont show there is always someone else on speed dail. Being stood up on a date only matters if your options are few. When she calls ill just hear her excuse and simply say "no problem". Why? Because she is not that important that Im going to get mad over it "dogs go mad".

Most chicks want to be the center of your universe so they expect you to get angry. Please, Im the sun and you rotate around me, so I dont waste any thoughts on it. I only know my mission, and Im going to hit no matter how many games she plays.

I only plays to win you dig!!!
 

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Well hey now I never said to "get mad." Its not about getting mad and yelling at her. You just state the above in a relaxed tone simple as that. Play the game playa its nothing at all.. Whatever works. I just feel if she cancels to not make it 10 minutes before I'm going to meet her or along those lines.

Its direct, its respectful, it makes you look like you respect your time and yourself, and it shows her she can be replaced.
 

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Originally posted by RedKnight04
Well hey now I never said to "get mad." Its not about getting mad and yelling at her. You just state the above in a relaxed tone simple as that. Play the game playa its nothing at all.. Whatever works. I just feel if she cancels to not make it 10 minutes before I'm going to meet her or along those lines.

Its direct, its respectful, it makes you look like you respect your time and yourself, and it shows her she can be replaced.
I feel you pimping. If you feel the need to let her know let her know but always do it in a nonchalent way. Anger is for chumps, and once it's pass let it pass. Never forget your mission though, and thats to get her on her back. That's where I exact my revenge you dig.
 

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Good points....I went with saying that it was fine and went on. Guys she is a player 2. She dates/flirts/teases with a lot of guys, but nobody has laid it to her yet. I know she isn't a virgin cause some of her old high school classmates said she screwed a couple of dudes during that time, but that she went prude as soon as she got into college. She is 23 now im 27. Anyway, she is seeing a guy at the moment..so it'll be a little bit before she comes around again. She has a habit of doing that. I just wanna do the right things in the mean time and be that guy that tells my buds how tight that little thing she has is!
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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