"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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What did I do wrong?? Field Report..

YoungSir4sho

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2days ago I got off from work. Got out one train and saw this girl waiting for her train reading a book. I didn't talk n was mad about that. I promised myself if i saw her again I would.. Luckly I did,Early this morning when i got off from work. Took the train again and on the train saw her reading her book. In my mind i said F it I'm gonna talk regardless.

She was listening to her iPod while reading her book. I came up to her and said let me ask you a ? Then I saw what is your name. She said y.. Then I said cuz u mad sexy. She smiled then said thanks and was about to put her headphones back on. I looked at her and she said can she get back to reading her book. I said so u not gonna give me your name. She said no. Then I said ight and I left..

To be honest I felt good that i talked to her even though I got rejected. At least i don't have to live in regret. But i would like to know how could I have done that better or she just wasn't in to me obviously.

Few mins later i saw another girl and said what's her name while she was walking and she said it but she kept on going and I didn't chase her.

I will only be doing direct game so what should I say or just keep going by saying.. Let me ask u a ?. Then say what's ur name. Or should I say how u doing. I already know not to ever say u r sexy or compliment again.
 

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She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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let me ask you a question? IS GARBAGE!!

DONT ASK TO ASK A QUESTION

TRY THIS TOMMROW AND TELL ME HOW IT GOES

OPENER

"I saw you from over there and I knew I had to come up to you and introduce myself.. Im (YOUR NAME) And you are... PAUSE WAIT FOR HER:

THEN TRANSITION!
 

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Thx.. I will use this all day Tom then and let u know on here how it goes.


What happens when a girl is walking or something.. Just get her attention by saying how u doing or just always start off with what u said.
 
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should of asked her what book what she reading or better yet who was she listening to...but yeah like he said, never ask to ask her name. You always wanna catch her off gaurd. Oh, and make sure you observe what she's doing like reading or waiting for a bus it's a great convo starter. Good luck bro!
 

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YoungSir4sho said:
2days ago I got off from work. Got out one train and saw this girl waiting for her train reading a book. I didn't talk n was mad about that. I promised myself if i saw her again I would.. Luckly I did,Early this morning when i got off from work. Took the train again and on the train saw her reading her book. In my mind i said F it I'm gonna talk regardless.
This is a good attitude to have here. Instead of allowing fear or nervousness to take over,you said "f-it" and just dove right in.

I give you props for that.


Now that I've given you a little praise,it's time to whip up on you a little.


If you were a newbie,we could let it slide,but being a member here as long as you've been,there's no excuse for those rookie mistakes you made.


So here we go....

YoungSir4sho said:
She was listening to her iPod while reading her book. I came up to her and said let me ask you a ?
Slick101 already covered this part,but you shouldn't ask her if you can ask her a question. Just jump right into the conversation,don't try to get her permission first.

Just flat out start talking to her. If what you have to say is interesting,she'll gladly jump in with you.



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Then I saw what is your name. She said y.. Then I said cuz u mad sexy.
You told her she was "mad sexy". O...kay. Umm...may I ask why?

You should already know not to compliment a woman LIKE THAT.

You created NO ATTRACTION there.

None. All you did was boost her ego. Like at how she responded to you...

YoungSir4sho said:
She smiled then said thanks and was about to put her headphones back on. I looked at her and she said can she get back to reading her book.
She said thank you,then immediately went back to doing what she was doing.

That's a bad sign dude,real bad. You know your game is lacking when the girl you approach would rather read a book than continue interacting with you.


YoungSir4sho said:
I said so u not gonna give me your name. She said no.
She had NO REASON to give you her name. You didn't create any interest in her. To be honest,it seemed more like you were bothering her than gaming her.


So why would she give her name out to someone who she considered to be pestering her?

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To be honest I felt good that i talked to her even though I got rejected. At least i don't have to live in regret
Like I said previously,this is a good attitude to have,but if you get rejected too much,it'll start to wear even this positivity.

The thing I don't get here with you is that these mistakes are elmentary,they're for newbies.

You should be FAR PAST these kind of mistakes.



It's bad when you,who's been here since 2007,and some 17 year old who just joined up here yesterday AND who's new to dating both have the SAME problems.



YoungSir4sho said:
But i would like to know how could I have done that better or she just wasn't in to me obviously.
Well for one,stop asking for permission to speak to a girl,and just talk to her.

Another thing:STOP IT with that "mad sexy" nonsense. You're unintentionally boosting the girl's ego.



Look at how that girl responded to you...She said "thanks",put her ear phones back on,and ASKED YOU to let her get back to READING.


She wouldn't even tell you her name.


Instead of giving her a compliment,you probably should have negged her,or foundt some type of common ground as a opening.



Like DondottaJuanpappa said,you could have asked her what she was reading or what she was listening to.


JUST TALK. You're the man. YOU lead. You don't ask for her permission first. Just do it.


After asking her what she was listening to,you could have went like,"Hey,my brother has a ipod just like that one,except it's blue. He got it for his birthday". Then you just continue speaking,leading her were you want the convo to go.


That would have been netter than that,"Can I ask you a question" nonsense.






YoungSir4sho said:
Few mins later i saw another girl and said what's her name while she was walking and she said it but she kept on going and I didn't chase her.

I will only be doing direct game so what should I say or just keep going by saying.. Let me ask u a ?. Then say what's ur name. Or should I say how u doing. I already know not to ever say u r sexy or compliment again.
You need to bypass the "what's your name?" bit and just go straight for her emotions,making her "feel" something. Once the emotional connection is made,eveything else will fall in place.


All this flack you're getting from girls is a result of there being no interest on their part. There's no attraction.
 

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You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

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YoungSir4sho said:
She was listening to her iPod while reading her book. I came up to her and said let me ask you a ? Then I saw what is your name. She said y.. Then I said cuz u mad sexy. She smiled then said thanks and was about to put her headphones back on. I looked at her and she said can she get back to reading her book. I said so u not gonna give me your name. She said no. Then I said ight and I left..

Well, it's kind of a childish approach. There's nothing wrong with slang, or street talk or whatever, but that's what the kids are doing. You're a man.

If you see a girl reading a book, you just ask her what book she's reading. Then you start talking to her about other books. If you're not a reader, then just lie and say you are. Either way, the girl leaves the conversation thinking you're smart, confident man, instead of thinking that she's "mad sexy".

Which is more likely to make a girl go to her friends and BRAG about meeting you?
1) Her meeting a man who can talk to her about books, music, and other similar interest
2) Her meeting some guy who thinks she's "mad sexy"
 

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Slick101 said:
let me ask you a question? IS GARBAGE!!

DONT ASK TO ASK A QUESTION

This is not a question its a statement. Not sure what you're talking about.
 

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lakeshore said:
This is not a question its a statement. Not sure what you're talking about.
EITHER WAY THAT STATEMENT IS GARBAGE :)
 

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IMO if a chick is reading a book with headphones in her ear then you probably shoudn't approach her as you can tell from her position that she didn't want anyone talking to her at that time

I'm gonna agree with the others here that the "mad sexy" bit was a bit lame, but then again it's not the line, it's the delivery. You seemed like you forced it there. had you waited later to deliver and gave it to a chick who seem into you that you might have gotten a different result

She probably was annoyed that you interrupted her. There's a million reasons she could have rejected you, none of them having anything to do with you. If a chick rejected you that fast then she wasn't having it anyway. There is nothing you could have done to "create" attraction in her. She didn't have it in the first place.
 

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Well everyone is right so thx for all of that. I realized I made a mistake saying mad sexy or complimenting her after.. I always was against telling a girl she is pretty fo a pickup one but I wanted to try it out regardless.


Maybe I should create a new topic cuz i just layed a girl last night.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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YoungSir4sho said:
Well everyone is right so thx for all of that. I realized I made a mistake saying mad sexy or complimenting her after.. I always was against telling a girl she is pretty fo a pickup one but I wanted to try it out regardless.


Maybe I should create a new topic cuz i just layed a girl last night.
LOL. Strong progress.
 
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