"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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3agle 3yes said:
Trump, Mike32ct and JaegerPilot217.

Why is it that so many guys place so much importance on getting laid?

Does getting some p*ssy actually change your outlook of life?

What's so bad about being a virgin? ...getting laid for the first time is easy, assuming you're willing to drastically lower your standards.

The REAL reason why guys want to be good with women and get laid a lot is so they can feel good about themselves.

So actually OP's REAL problem is that he feels worthless...not that he is a virgin.

Women aren't important...most are too stupid or too average as people to place any importance with.



The more life experiences and well-rounded a man becomes, the more he sees women for what they really are.

I guess the primal urge for sex just does not go away, it's natural and built-in to us
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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3agle 3yes said:
Trump, Mike32ct and JaegerPilot217.

Why is it that so many guys place so much importance on getting laid?


Ego, society and media, and biology all combined.

Does getting some p*ssy actually change your outlook of life?

Not really other than a stress reliever lol.

What's so bad about being a virgin?

Nothing is bad about it per se. The problem is that sex is rubbed in our faces so much that it really hurts to feel "left out."

As I said before, being a virgin (to a very late age) wasn't so bad. I actually didn't crave sex THAT much because I hadn't tried it yet. (I couldn't miss what I hadn't experienced.)

The real problem was listening to guy friends, male relatives, etc. constantly talk about women, lays, BJs, makeouts, etc. These conversations would go on for hours. Of course, I had nothing to contribute. It was either listen to other guys' exploits (whether true or exaggerated) or be a complete loner. Many times I would have to eventually walk away from such conversations holding back tears because I was constantly reminded that I was "weird" and "left out."

So, anyway, there is nothing wrong with being a virgin. The only real downsides are hearing everybody else's sexual relationship gossip and seeing other guys with girls.


...getting laid for the first time is easy, assuming you're willing to drastically lower your standards.

I will respectfully disagree with this. A lot of guys simply don't know HOW to get a female to that point, or their lack of looks (with possible social awkwardness) makes it extremely difficult to pull it off or they don't have access to many women (i.e. no social circle) or some combination of those. Of course, once you score once, it gets easier, but the first one isn't easy unless he meets an aggressive female who makes it easy for him.

The REAL reason why guys want to be good with women and get laid a lot is so they can feel good about themselves.

True.

So actually OP's REAL problem is that he feels worthless...not that he is a virgin.

Certainly it's a factor.

Women aren't important...most are too stupid or too average as people to place any importance with.

I agree completely, but it's easy for me to say that because I'm older. It's a very difficult thing for a young guy to digest.

The more life experiences and well-rounded a man becomes, the more he sees women for what they really are.
Again very true, but it's hard for a young guy to see it that way.
 

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JaegerPilot217 said:
Maybe attend a boot-camp OP?
The problem with book camps are that they're really expensive for only a few days work. You can get across the first stage, let's say opening but then you'd need to work on another area and another area. Guys need continuous support not some weekend fantasy camp where they get to hang out with their heros, hit on chicks, get their state pumped up. A month down the line, you're back to where you are before.
 

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Mr Wright said:
The problem with book camps are that they're really expensive for only a few days work. You can get across the first stage, let's say opening but then you'd need to work on another area and another area. Guys need continuous support not some weekend fantasy camp where they get to hang out with their heros, hit on chicks, get their state pumped up. A month down the line, you're back to where you are before.
I agree with all this.
 

“The 22 Psychological Triggers That Make Women Chase You… Starting Tonight”

Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.

I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.

Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules.  Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.

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Mike32ct said:
I agree with all this.
True but what about working with a dating and relationship coach, consultant, similar to like Will Smith's character "Hitch"? They can give constructive criticism, tell you what you are doing right and wrong, for example a guy like David Wygant or those RSD instructors
 

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And there are some boot-camps in which you get to work weekly or monthly with the Coach
 

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Overall, I think it's best learn by yourself. Every guy is so different. The downside of a guru is they are basically try to get you to adopt THEIR personality and way of doing things that might not suit you.

I went out with a former top guy (who shall remain nameless) for a private coaching session for one night. While it was interesting and fun, realistically, there was no way I could adopt his "style." When I tried his stuff on my own, it came across as really try hard and made my game worse because it just wasn't "me."

I mean if you could find the right "Hitch" that would work with you and your personality, then fine. But otherwise, I wouldn't.
 

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Mike32ct said:
Overall, I think it's best learn by yourself. Every guy is so different. The downside of a guru is they are basically try to get you to adopt THEIR personality and way of doing things that might not suit you.

I went out with a former top guy (who shall remain nameless) for a private coaching session for one night. While it was interesting and fun, realistically, there was no way I could adopt his "style." When I tried his stuff on my own, it came across as really try hard and made my game worse because it just wasn't "me."

I mean if you could find the right "Hitch" that would work with you and your personality, then fine. But otherwise, I wouldn't.
Ya I'm working with David Wygant and he is all about being your best natural self, I'm sure he knows that it won't help guys by duplicating his personality
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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