"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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Went on a date with a girl 4 days ago and she hasnt returned my call since

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Wasup guys?? PLease excuse my name its brand new I havn't posted on the forums in about 2 years and now I am just confused!!

Anyways, I just went on this date with this girl 4 days ago.

We actually met through a friend of mine. That friend of mine told me one of her friends thought I was cute. So anyways that friend of mine gave me the girl who thought I was cute phone number.

So i called that girl, we talked for about two days. I'm actually VERY good with my phone game, I think its better than my game in real life cuz I practice more on the phone than in real life but im trying to make my real life game just as good, IT almost is... Anyways because of that I actually got her SO INTO me that she wanted to be my girlfriend from talking to me on the phone lol. Anyways we do (I do because its all fun to me and im seeing 3 other girls anyways) So then setup a date the next day.

We actually had the date at the movie theaters. Guys I know you are against going out to the movie theaters as the first date, but the way I am with girls is I do what I WANT. ANd I really wanted to see 10,000 BC!!

So anyways, I meet up with her and this is the first time we actually talked in person, cuz the day she thought i was cute she didnt talk to me, I didnt even know who she was until her friend showed me her picture.

Anyways Im gonna get to the point. So we meet up I hug blah blah we hit it off, we go to the movies, we sit at the spot I picked. We watch the movies, I immedietly begin holding her hands and doing other things but just little things that are innocent.

So about 10 minutes into the movie she asks " You want some candy?" I said no, she kept insisting, I said No im good!! Then she kept insisting and I said I dont eat candy, and she kept insisting for me to eat this candy. I thought it was weird. So i said ok give me one. She takes it out of the wrapper and puts it in her mouth, and says "Come get it" I think to myself, Oh god.... How lame.

Anyways I dont usually kiss on the first date, I dont know jsut how i am. But then I thought **** it, So i go in, we make out for about 20 minutes, she seemed VERY into me. I didnt even get to see the movie. Whole time she was kissing me and ****.

Movie ends, we hang out for a bit, she buys me burgerking, talk for a bit.Then she brings up the question, So what do you think of me?? And then she asks, "do you still want to be my boyfriend?" Then I thought to myself, hmm something must be up, why would she bring this up if we agreed to it on the phone last night? So then I basically say that, we alraedy went over this, and what she thinks. And she brings it back to me asking what i think. So then I tell her its what we already decided.

Then we talk about other ****, and we go to her car, we talk bout things some about her life...THEN she brings it up again, if i really want to be her boyfriend. And i said Yes, then she said she does too, and she REALLY LIKES ME... BUT!!!........ shes been so over worked lately from school and work and everything else and how she hasnt slept since last night when we talked and went to school with no sleep and how she was on her period today and tells me thats why shes being like this....and she goes to say, She has to 'Think' About it...That she has too much going on that she has to worry about. (In my head i actually understood, it wasnt any big deal as i was seeing other girls) So i tell her "ok lets be friends", Like i wasnt phased one bit.

So we talk more, and i tell her since we're friends, she cant be looking at me like that or trying to kiss me ETC ETC ETC. And she says "I know". I tell, we might as well get one last kiss, so i lean in for a kiss she begins to open her mouth and stick her toung out a bit and i give her a QUICK peck on the lips and pulled away. And i said "There!"

So then she takes me home (I lived down the street), and we get to my place, she looks at me with these puppy dawg eyes, i swear she looked as if one of her family members had just died and she was depressed. All sad. And she says Please call me , u better call me tomorrow! (she said this because, i told her that i dont stay friends with girls but if we WERE friends, id only talk to her every now and then and not so much). So i said ok, blah blah, give her a hug (no kiss), say nice meeting u and she look VERY SAD. I left.

Next day i txted her. No reply, same night i left a voice mail. No reply.

Her friend tells me she got my txt, so I KNOW she just doesnt wanna talk to me. Its been 4 days............ NOW....... I am not really turning AFC over this, IT JUST BOTHERS me ... not knowing WHY????? I just wanna know why she hasnt called back. WTF?

Do you guys know of any possible reasons?
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Who knows..

How old is this girl? I can't tell if she's a phony, an attention *****, or both wrapped up into one.

The question is, who asks someone to be in a relationship when they haven't even known each other a week? Or had sex? Or kissed?

She's either very clingy and crazy or she is just messing with your head. Either way, it doesn't sound all that good. I'd keep talking to other women. If she comes around, she comes around. If she doesn't, no big deal.
 

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Sounds like you let things run too fast and didn't put up enough challenge. She was supposed to be auditioning to be your girlfriend, not the other way around. Seems like you were too easy to win over and she lost interest.

Also FYI movies are bad first dates... and it sounds like you didn't even watch the movie... she distracted you too much... which is yet another test you failed.
 

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Um do you need help figuring this out?

You pretty much summed it up at the end of your date with her that you didnt really want to pursue her while she still did.

YET YOU ARE THE ONE NOW WORRYING WHAT IS GOING ON.

You had your chance and you basically blew it.I dont even kno why you did but it seems like you didnt care at the moment but just NOW you care?You seem confused about what you want man
 

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True.

I actually didnt follow the "RULES" because I dont know I feel like I can break the rules and still get by, but if she doesnt like me for it then **** her.

**** I was too easy....... .... ... .. . ..........on the MAJOR parts. But on the whole time together part, i coulda sworn i was fuking with her emotions and was making myself a good challenge with the whole push pull thingg

In fact I texted her everyday since the four days. I stopped though. I dont feel I was being AFC because i thought , well, Im pretty sure this girl is use to guys not talking to her if she doesnt return a call. But then if I do what i want, she might see that im really confident about myself and feel like I KNOW I DO DESERVE HER... Cus I thought she wasnt responding cuz what i said about everything i sounded like a player straight up. Then my 3rd text to her, i said , u know what "I cant accept being friends I know we could share something special". anyways i thought i could get what i want , but she never wrote back....... This is crazy to me. But im not losing any sleep over it.
I only wanna know what the ****.

Anyways shes 18.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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She sounds like a headcase. I'd detach myself as quickly as I could from this chick if I were you.

I know you keep saying you're confident about yourself and all, but as soon as she asked "do you want to be my boyfriend?" you said yes, although inside you weren't sure about it (understandably, as that's moving way too fast). Then when she went blah blah a bit more about being busy & overworked, you said "ok let's be friends". So which role do you really want to be? You change your mind just as fast as chicks do. :D

NOW....... I am not really turning AFC over this, IT JUST BOTHERS me ... not knowing WHY????? I just wanna know why she hasnt called back. WTF?

Do you guys know of any possible reasons?
Heh, males are more analytical which is why we want to know all the whys and hows. It's a great thing most of the time (which helped us build and invent stuff) but when dealing with women, it's the source of our misery. Ask yourself would it really benefit you if you knew the real reason why she didn't respond to your calls & txts? If she doesn't want to talk to you, fine, let it go, there are other girls you can spend your valuable time with. Let her deal with her problems.
 

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Honestly buddy you came off as being a needy chump in every way especially with the "I can't accept being friends" bit. You morphed to match her behaviors and opinions. When she wanted a relationship, you wanted a relationship. When she wanted to be friends, you wanted to be friends... etc. A real man knows what he wants. Turn this isn't a positive and learn from your mistakes.

How can a woman expect you to finish your goals in life if you can be easily distracted by any woman that comes along? You were too needy, bottom line.

Holding hands, excessive talking on the phone, excessive text messaging and contact, relationship talk on the first date, ignoring the movie and paying attention only to her, etc. You let things progress too quickly and put up no challenge for her so she lost interest.

Don't contact her, don't go around b1tching to your friends, don't let her know you're bothered. Maybe she will contact you and you can try to get power back on your terms.
 

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This girl is a head case. If I understand you here

Then we talk about other ****, and we go to her car, we talk bout things some about her life...THEN she brings it up again, if i really want to be her boyfriend. And i said Yes, then she said she does too, and she REALLY LIKES ME... BUT!!!........ shes been so over worked lately from school and work and everything else and how she hasnt slept since last night when we talked and went to school with no sleep and how she was on her period today and tells me thats why shes being like this....and she goes to say, She has to 'Think' About it...That she has too much going on that she has to worry about. (In my head i actually understood, it wasnt any big deal as i was seeing other girls) So i tell her "ok lets be friends", Like i wasnt phased one bit
She begs you to be her boyfriend, you agree she then says she has to think about it.

One word of advice "Run Like H#LL". Nothing good will come out of this except you giving advice here to an up and coming chump about a similar situation you went through way back when (this situation).
 

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Damn ,... After reading all your replies... I realize I still have a lot to learn....

I cant believe how I acted with the girl. Honestly, thats not how i really am.

Its just how I am when im at a ultimate high, and real happy with things... I get pretty crazy..........

Anyways, fvck it? I dont know why i am crushing so hard on this girl. Its so weird to me. And its not even because of the fact shes ignoring me... I think... Maybe it is a lil bit.... But before it happened, I kept asking myself, WHY DO I LIKE HER SO MUCH?? I thought hard. I kept thinking and thinking. Her personality is dull, she just is boring PERIOD. She doesnt have any of the qualities i look for (except looks).

But i think i realized why i do... Its the way she says my name lol. AS weird as it sounds, damn, seriously every time she says my name it triggers something inside of me...... it makes me take a step back and think like ive felt this feeling before fom somewhere and it only happends when she says my name....Fvck ... it.....


I just fvcked closed a girl , I met her through a friend of mine( a diff friend) briefly for about 15 minutes last week, and she just caled me yesterday adn she came over 2 hours ago and we fvked. It was lame though, i didnt even nut and she kept complaining how big it was 4 minutes into it and how it hurt , but i still fuked her for 20 more minutes regardless, just watching the non enjoyment expression on her face from the pain LOL.... and then her friend came by to pick her up cuz its late 20 minutes ago so thats it.............. I just thought id tel u guys cuz i dunno...
 

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dopexile said:
Honestly buddy you came off as being a needy chump in every way especially with the "I can't accept being friends" bit. You morphed to match her behaviors and opinions. When she wanted a relationship, you wanted a relationship. When she wanted to be friends, you wanted to be friends... etc. A real man knows what he wants. Turn this isn't a positive and learn from your mistakes. How can a woman expect you to finish your goals in life if you can be easily distracted by any woman that comes along? You were too needy, bottom line.

Holding hands, excessive talking on the phone, excessive text messaging and contact, relationship talk on the first date, ignoring the movie and paying attention only to her, etc. You let things progress too quickly and put up no challenge for her so she lost interest.

Don't contact her, don't go around b1tching to your friends, don't let her know you're bothered. Maybe she will contact you and you can try to get power back on your terms.
Yeah this is the biggest problem. You become whatever she wants, and that shows a weak personality. It´s funny how everybody blame/demonize the girl, not the guy for doing the wrong things. :nono:
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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She is no longer interested in you kid. Sorry something turned her off while you were on that date. You should of made it a coffee date to begin with and seen the movie by yourself or with someone else.

So whatever you did or said messed up your game and if you continue to call her you will get a bad rep.

Chalk it up to the game and quit the ego trippin and step on.
 

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TheRealSupreme said:
She is no longer interested in you kid. Sorry something turned her off while you were on that date. You should of made it a coffee date to begin with and seen the movie by yourself or with someone else.

So whatever you did or said messed up your game and if you continue to call her you will get a bad rep.

Chalk it up to the game and quit the ego trippin and step on.
Well said ......... NEXT :)
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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