Very attractive girls and other guys

[Maxtro]

In my math class there is one really hot girl. She has a perfect body, face and long blond hair. She is the classic 10. As I looked around the room, no other girl came close to her. The next highest girl may have been a 7. Having a shortage of good looking girls is a major annoyance. The biggest problem is that many other guys also consider her to be the perfect girl.

As I watched her come into the room and sit down, I noticed that she was being fallowed by three guys who all proceeded to sit around her. I like her also but I didn't want to be the forth guy around her.

That's when I realized that pretty girls are very much in demand. Which leaves me with limited options. Back down and go after something less desirable. Or compete and try and get the prize. It almost seems pathetic being another guy who is trying to get her.

I'm at a loss for what to do.

 

[ChrizZ]

In my math class there is one really hot girl. She has a perfect body, face and long blond hair. She is the classic 10. As I looked around the room, no other girl came close to her. The next highest girl may have been a 7. Having a shortage of good looking girls is a major annoyance. The biggest problem is that many other guys also consider her to be the perfect girl.

As I watched her come into the room and sit down, I noticed that she was being fallowed by three guys who all proceeded to sit around her. I like her also but I didn't want to be the forth guy around her.

That's when I realized that pretty girls are very much in demand. Which leaves me with limited options. Back down and go after something less desirable. Or compete and try and get the prize. It almost seems pathetic being another guy who is trying to get her.

I'm at a loss for what to do.

ask her out.

 

[Maxtro]

ask her out.

I don't think it's that simple. It's pointless to ask out somebody if you haven't done anything to get noticed.

 

[ChrizZ]

I don't think it's that simple. It's pointless to ask out somebody if you haven't done anything to get noticed.

that will get you noticed if you don't do it in a chumpish way.

While the other chumps are playing the dancing monkey and hope that she will magically be attracted to them you have to be the one that has the balls to ask her out.

What do you have to lose anyways?

You can sit there all year and do nothing or you can step the fvck over to her.

 

[DonJuan11]

That's when I realized that pretty girls are very much in demand. Which leaves me with limited options. Back down and go after something less desirable. Or compete and try and get the prize. It almost seems pathetic being another guy who is trying to get her.

I'm at a loss for what to do.

Maxtro you have to show her that you have social value. Why would she go out with you instead of guy #2? What can you offer her than guy #1 can't? Are you funny? Are you tall? Are you a musician? Are you ripped? Do you a bmw or a mercedes? Are you determined? Are you good looking? Can you dance? Can you sing? Do you go to a party every Friday night? Does everyone know you at the local club? Or are you undefeated in Tennis WII?

She will not go out with you because she pity's you, she will not go out with because you haven't had a date in 1 month, she will not go out with you because you are nervous around women.

She will go out with you because you can make her feel something that guy #1,2,3,4,5,6 cannot.

 

[Maxtro]

that will get you noticed if you don't do it in a chumpish way.

While the other chumps are playing the dancing monkey and hope that she will magically be attracted to them you have to be the one that has the balls to ask her out.

What do you have to lose anyways?

That's a good way of looking at it. Actually "asking her out" is a way to stand out. But what I want to do is increase my chances with her.

Maxtro you have to show her that you have social value. Why would she go out with you instead of guy #2?

She will go out with you because you can make her feel something that guy #1,2,3,4,5,6 cannot.

And that is the reason why I made this thread. How to stand above the crowd? I am not half the things that you mentioned but are they the determining factors when I comes to a womans interest?

With so many guys after her it becomes more of a contest then if it was just us two.

 

[ChrizZ]

That's a good way of looking at it. Actually "asking her out" is a way to stand out. But what I want to do is increase my chances with her.


And that is the reason why I made this thread. How to stand above the crowd? I am not half the things that you mentioned but are they the determining factors when I comes to a womans interest?

With so many guys after her it becomes more of a contest then if it was just us two.

Okay, here is what I want you to do the next time you see her. Dress in the best clothes you have. Make yourself sharp looking.

Go up to her. Hold strong EC. Face her with your whole body. Don't do any quick movements. Don't move at all.

Say..."Hi, what's your name?"

her: HB

you: "HB, what have you been up to?"

her: blabla

you: "Intersting... I'd like you to join me for coffee today."

BOOM...that's it. All your fear is gone after that. She might say yes or she might say no. Stuff like that is out of your control, but the longer you wait the more likely she is to say no or end up with one of the other losers.

All those idiots are sh!tting their pants because she's hot. The man that makes the first move wins.

Do this and report back. You have to do it in a cool and calm manor though, just like if you were asking her for the time.

 

[Maxtro]

Nice idea but I've known her for a while now. I've just never made a move on her. But now that I see other guys are talking to her it's making me notice different things. It's made me realize that talking to a girl is nothing special. It's taken me a long time to freely talk to hotties but I see that I need to keep improving.

Suggesting that we get some coffee is still a good idea.

 

[saber]

Maxtro you have to show her that you have social value. [/B][/U]

BOOM! nail on the head...ive done some sarging and the "hi want to get coffee" thing is bull****!!

sry but it is

there are two simple but not neccessarily easy ways to raise value

the first is to use anything at your disposal such as nice clothes being seen with other girls and so on

the one you will probably need is out amoging the other guys

http://www.bristollair.com/outer-game/techniques/tactics/amog-fr.html

this is a great article that shows how you can adjust value within the group

 

[Maxtro]

I didn't think that AMOG would apply outside of a club environment. I got some reading to do.

I'm working on ways to raise my value. Working out trying to build muscle and loose fat. I'm always trying to look good. Looks only get you so far though.

 

[Jitterbug]

Building long term high values is cool, but you should always try to work with what you currently have.

If I were in your shoes, I'd find a way to make her curious about me and either approach me herself or send out obvious approach invitations. How would I go about it?

- Peacocking. Not ridiculous stuff, but wear or have something that stands out. For example, I once wore a T-shirt that says "For every animal you don't eat, I'm going to eat three" (can be found on maddox.xmission.com if you want to know what it looks like) because I wanted to grab the attention of this HB who I know is a vegetarian. And got her attention I did. The key is to have a big shiny thing that serves well as a conversation opener.

- Creating a positive social energy around you that draws her to you. You mentioned that she's by far the hottest in your class, her 10 to max-7 for the rest. This makes it easier to get her attention IMO. Other girls in your class would already be jealous of this HB10, so they will distance themselves from her. All you need to do is to give those other girls your attention, draw them towards you with your good social skills. Other guys will be drawn towards the HB10 like dancing monkey chumps which makes it easier for you to work on the other chicks. Believe me, when you have a crowd of HB7 or even lesser girls around you, it will draw this HB10 to you like crack wh0res to coke. It'll make her question her own attractiveness and make her want to prove that she can outdo those girls to grab your attention. If you can lead those other girls, she will definitely want in to see what's so special about you.

- Once you've got her initial attention, as she enters this social circle you just created, acknowledge her presence but treat her just like any other girl in that circle and make her qualify herself for a place in your reality. Bring her down from that pedestal. Once she's down to earth, you can proceed to charm her in your ways. Ask her out, kino, kiss, the lot.

 

[DonJuan11]

I'm working on ways to raise my value. Working out trying to build muscle and loose fat. I'm always trying to look good. Looks only get you so far though.

Maxtro we can only help you so much. Yes looks can only get you so far, as its the same with money, cars, clothes, jobs, houses, old girlfriends, body type, hair color, eye color, shoe color, nose size, There is no magic pill that is going to make her fall in love with you no matter how bad you want it. You may be the most perfect guy in the world and play guitar like Slash, but she still may not go out with you because she doesn't like the month you were born in. You have to be comfortable with yourself and try to constantly improve yourself to be best person you can be.

Yes some guys are 6'1 hockey players who are naturals, and all they have to do is cough and the girl will take off her clothers and sleep with them, but some of us aren't and we have make most with what we have. Short of us telling you to force yourself on her, there is not more we can do for you except give you the fundamentals. If you want to play the pity card, that's fine, but it won't help you get her.