"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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Two **** tests in a row I think; am I right?

Cabal

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Girl one. 22. Teacher. Hot. I used to sleep with her bestfriend a few years ago. She mentions that when I ask her to 'hang out' and I just shrug it off, she hangs out. We kiss. We meet again a week later. Kiss. Another week later. Make out session again. Then she keeps dodging coming out saying she's tutoring, and I see her in a pub with her ex boyfriend. When she lies to me about her tutoring session I refrain from mentioning I saw her and just tell her it's her turn to ask me to come out and play. Two weeks later, no dice. I ask her if we're done, she says no she's just really busy and won't have much free time until June. I tell her we're done. She's texted me several times. I've ignored. Well played?

Girl two. 20. Hot. Been mates on and off, between drinking buddies and strangers in the night depending on who's doing what, one night she tells me she thinks I'm hot and kisses me. I meet her a few days later. We kiss. I meet her a third time. She shoots me down infront of the pub as I'm about to lock lips. Tells me her head is in the wrong place for anything. I tell her she should've changed the rules before meeting me, or in the ten minutes before I inevitably went to kiss her in a public place. I walked. She's messaged me a few times. I've ignored. Well played?

That's two chicks in a row where things have crashed and burned around date three, so I'm thinking either they're both nuts, both **** testing, or neither in which case probably something I'm doing.

Any thoughts?
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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f283000

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Cabal said:
Girl one. 22. Teacher. Hot. I used to sleep with her bestfriend a few years ago. She mentions that when I ask her to 'hang out' and I just shrug it off, she hangs out. We kiss. We meet again a week later. Kiss. Another week later. Make out session again. Then she keeps dodging coming out saying she's tutoring, and I see her in a pub with her ex boyfriend.
Why do you keep ignoring her bad behavior? This is the difference between a nice guy (you) and and an alpha male. You need to learn to discipline women. Discipline is not about smacking them across the face but pointing out their bull___ and bad behavior. It's what jerks and alpha males do and is what keeps women attracted to them. If they do something bad you tell it and you tell it TO THEIR FACE!

You think an alpha male would just let it slide if he caught her with her ex when she said she was supposed to be busy? What do you think she would respect more? a guy that lets her bad behavior slide or a guy that stands up to her bad behavior and gives her the fear of losing him? I think you should know the answer.

I know like most nice guys in this forum you were taught the opposite about women (to placate to them). But if you follow guys that got women like puppets on a string you will see how they discipline women everyday. Whether it be pointing out their bs, their mistakes, bad behavior etc. You need to keep women from thinking they are perfect. If you let bad behavior slide you will get walked all over by a woman.
and just tell her it's her turn to ask me to come out and play. Two weeks later, no dice.
You know how weak that sounds? asking her to invite you to play? she was already dissin you and you ask her that it only makes you look weak in her eyes like if you are beggin.
I ask her if we're done
You don't ask a woman to define the terms of a relationship you know how bad this makes you look? what you do is delete number/ignore/delete her from your life if you are not getting what you want. That's how you do it not asking her like a love sick puppy if this is over.

oh btw read the 2 STRIKES RULE
 

hansol

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LOL the teacher is "busy til june"?! What a tool.
 

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sounds like u lost interest at the exact same stage with both of them.

well played, but maybe u cud have done differently.

Did you guys text or get in touch between dates, when/how/who made the dates?

Sometimes i find girls lose interest sharp if u show too much interest early on. I like to ignore them and play it cool for the first few dates.

Apart from that it happens, i wouldnt overthink it.
 

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f283000 said:
Why do you keep ignoring her bad behavior? This is the difference between a nice guy (you) and and an alpha male. You need to learn to discipline women. Discipline is not about smacking them across the face but pointing out their bull___ and bad behavior. It's what jerks and alpha males do and is what keeps women attracted to them. If they do something bad you tell it and you tell it TO THEIR FACE!

You think an alpha male would just let it slide if he caught her with her ex when she said she was supposed to be busy? What do you think she would respect more? a guy that lets her bad behavior slide or a guy that stands up to her bad behavior and gives her the fear of losing him? I think you should know the answer.

I know like most nice guys in this forum you were taught the opposite about women (to placate to them). But if you follow guys that got women like puppets on a string you will see how they discipline women everyday. Whether it be pointing out their bs, their mistakes, bad behavior etc. You need to keep women from thinking they are perfect. If you let bad behavior slide you will get walked all over by a woman.

You know how weak that sounds? asking her to invite you to play? she was already dissin you and you ask her that it only makes you look weak in her eyes like if you are beggin.

You don't ask a woman to define the terms of a relationship you know how bad this makes you look? what you do is delete number/ignore/delete her from your life if you are not getting what you want. That's how you do it not asking her like a love sick puppy if this is over.

oh btw read the 2 STRIKES RULE
The topic poster sounds like he's on the right track at least...but how do you "discipline" a girl in this situation without sounding frustrated and insecure? If she's being so disrespectful and flaking to begin with, isn't it over already?

An alpha male doesn't confront her about it because he doesn't give a fvck and he's got options, and he's probably not getting treated like that in the first place because the first time she backtalked he put her in her place, where she happily stayed, right?

Personally I've never had success with confronting a girl about anything...by the time any confrontation is going on it's a lost cause. But I'm no expert, so please elaborate.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Lol. I texted her last night saying "you might be cute but that doesn't mean I believe you're busy until June, I call bull****. Anyway, whatcha wearing?"

Response; "Why would I tell you what I'm wearing when you just had a go at me?"

My reply; "You obviously want me to discipline you, no one could really think they'd get away with that bs. You obviously want to be spanked. So tell me what you're wearing."

:-D
 

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I would have called her out on her "tutoring session". Tell her I don't deal with liars. Next time she's gone. Start setting up your ground rules.
 
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