Tips on pullups and chinups

[typical]

Ok all I want is some tips for pullups and chinups, I can do sets of 15 all day long but god damn it how the hell do you do them with added weight it seems as if the harder I try the less I move and the more im raped.

I've tried 5 kgs 10 kgs and 20 kgs added weight, I can pull out 10 with 5 kilos 8 with 10 and only 4 with 20, but I can only manage one set with added weight is this normal or am I missing something, feel raped at the end

 

[flippinfreak]

LoL I have no idea what you mean by raped in the end.

Perhaps it is the need for you to be able to hold yourself longer, instead of doing a larger number of weights.

If you are doing dirty pulls than there are muscles that are providing the entire momentum for the lift, and the other muscles(like the ones in your back) are doing no work at all. So once you strap the extra weight onto your belt you can't simply rocket yourself upwards like you used to, and think that you are suffering... ???

Either way, do more long pulls. Just start from rest, hanging limp. Than slowly pull yourself up. Focus on the single sets of muscles that begin to work as you pull your way up. Focus on the switch in muscle groups when your arms reach a certain height. Switch your hand positioning, single/double overhand, close hands, stretched hands, one hand on wrist, and crossover(wrists).

Alternatively, you may try to lift yourself higher than a chin up. Lift your body completely to the bar. Touch your chest to the bar and hold it.

 

[Skilla_Staz]

You do them with weights, the same way you do them without. I'm guessing you may need to drop your rep range down to about 6-8ish. 15 reps is more of a "muscular endurance" range. Just slowly add weights on to them. If you can't get those up, go to the lat pull down machine, and work on that until you reach a weight high enough that you can go back to the weighted pull ups.