"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Accension

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Today was the first day I approached in my life ok, huge, groundbreaking steps for me.
One day that amounted to more than months apon months of theory, listen up.

Expectations
My god. Is. There. Anything. MORE negative.
- Than walking into your first approach, indeed any approach with bullshi7 expectations of yourself.

Put it this way.
Before you even approach, years upon years of pressure is piled upon your back.
Add onto that how much theory I've read and you expect things of yourself and get completely depressed when you don't get the outcome.

The example.

Today, I'd already been talking to my friends about approaching and getting numbers.
Naturally they put pressure on me to go approach, I put pressure on me to deliver an approach.

Excuses, excuses so what it came down to was a girl I was with completely embarrasing me and walking up to two girls and saying "My friend thinks you're cute, he wants your number but he's shy".

I literally said "My god, you ruined my first fuc7ing approach and cut my state in half." basically flipping out in public.
Because it ruined my big expectations of what this is all about.

Hell yeah I over reacted, I could have worked that set but instead got into a huge arguement in public over stupid expectations.

Moral of the story.


You expect an approach to go a certain way, for you to do certain things and have a certain outcome.
It's only natural after reading hours and hours of theory.

Think of it like this.
An AFC is on one end keep going further and you have a DJ go past that and you have an AFDJ again. Read that again, an Average Frustrated Don Juan.
The middle is where you want to be. Grounded.

End result.

So at this point I've walked away from my friends and lit a smoke,thinking more intense thoughts than the best articles I've ever read.
Realising that I'm trying to hold myself to something great when I'm not great and that's ego shattering right there.

My ego is torn into pieces, I'm putting my smoke out thinking "Why am I holding all these unrealistic expectations" and I notice my heart is beating real fast, like I'm about to do something scary.
I notice I can't walk away still being that guy, that unsuccessful guy.

My state is also ruined after my confidence was torn down from something so stupid.
Clearly.
I WENT BACK IN THERE AND FUC7ING APPROACHED.

I got a few numbers which is a titanic achievement for me, then I deleted those numbers simbolically deleting my old stupid expectations.
I didn't want to look at those numbers and think of how dumb I was, I've learnt from this.

Moving on.

I'll get new numbers, today wasn't about the numbers.

This is Accension and be sure to approach without expectations.
Keep it fun.
This is today, tomorrow is about doing it all again and better.

I'm putting today behind me, a harsh start to my journey but a huge leap.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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kingman

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Maybe your friend likes you. If not she does not sound like a good friend.
 

Asasione

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The friend was simply challenging him and IMO thinks he's a wuss, same line I've used when doing an intro for my AFC friends. The reaction says it all. You were busy plotting an epic seduction using your vast wealth of knowledge which on the fly didn't go as planned.

Bro, if you aren't having fun gaming girls and you're stuck in your held trying to live up to your expectation you telegraph this to the girls. You know that intense focus you have when your playing a cool video game and nothing else matters than what happening at that moment. That's the kind of state of mind you need when approaching sets. Don't worry about doing the wrong thing just come in with a smile and have fun interacting with the hunnies.

FYI numbers are generally a one way road to disapointment, they don't amount to results unless IL is high. I prefer giving my number then they have the option of pursuing me. Ciao
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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