This election is 1984 come to life.

[BlueAlpha1]

I keep hearing it is "unprecedented" for a presidential candidate to refuse to accept the outcome of an election, as the media onslaught on Trump continues. At this point, the're beating a dead horse and running it over backwards and forwards, but who expected them to stop? They stole an election and now they're going to brag about it as she's carried in on a throne and crowned like a Saudi royal family member. She won this election in the sense that she was placed on a chariot made of gold and given a head start in the red zone, while his legs were broken by mafia thugs 90 yards behind and then he started at the 1. This woman has been carried by a well-oiled media machine, which if she didn't have at her side, would have soundly lost the primary to a 75 year old socialist with poorly fitted suits.

They're also lying about her having a "clean sweep over the debates". She won one - the 1st, because he did nothing but take the bait constantly. He pummeled her in debate 2, and last night was underwhelming and the closest thing to a wash we've seen. He didn't hit her on enough points and didn't create enough momentum his way, but of course she said zero items of substance other than "systemic racism" and "women's rights", in a world of affirmative action quotas and 60% female breadwinners.

As far as rigging, the fact is Trump is right to be outraged. Yes, this election was rigged. Oh no, not in the sense that Trump ballots were thrown into a shredder or not counted (although we may get that too, and that'll be her 2020 scandal that the media ignores), but rigged in the sense that the media onslaught resembled a live playout of 1984 where government and media work together to form the ultimate, impenetrable propaganda arm.

The mainstream media spent months on the kind of locker room talk that every single male and approximately 97% of females in the country has engaged in, and on comments taken out of context (no, he didn't call generic "Mexicans" rapists). At the same time, they ignored espionage, treason, and bribery, and much more substantive cases of sexual misconduct from the other candidate. This gives Donald Trump every right NOT to accept the legitimacy of this election. I'm a tax paying American voter and I don't accept the outcome as a fair representative example of democracy.

I'll give you a few examples that make this election remind me of 1984. They keep accusing TRUMP of supporting the Iraq war, back when he was a businessman who was sort of wishy-washy about it at the time. Why his opinion as a real estate mogul on Iraq was important in 2003 who knows, but he quickly cleared up his position and stayed there. There are clips of him ripping President Bush while he was still in office pre-2008. The dude wasn't even a politician at the time, but the person who is on that stage VOTED FOR IT got a free pass on Iraq the whole time.

I also mentioned the ACTUAL sexual assault her husband committed as opposed to the jumbled rumor mill occupied by Trump's "victims". Her husband was IMPEACHED for sexual misconduct, and her intimidation of the victims is well-documented. Why wasn't she asked about the no less than a HALF-DOZEN people who have DISAPPEARED OFF THE FACE OF THE EARTH after crossing the Clintons on this issue and others like it?

It was counter-intuitive to it's core. Everything we knew to be true about the candidates was flipped. Don't grill the Secretary who was a chief architect of the Iraq war, grill the businessman who sort of mumbled about it from a distance. Are we living in the real world, or is slavery actually freedom, is war actually peace, and is Donald Trump more to blame for the Iraq war than Hillary Clinton?

SHE should have received the endless onslaught of scrutiny. SHAME on ABC, CBS, Huffington Post, Salon, Slate, The Atlantic, New York Times, Daily News, MSNBC, and a SPECIAL shoutout to the Clinton News Network (CNN) for being the biggest player in undermining our democracy as we know it. Thank you for the Trojan Horse of Syrian "refugees", for the continued discrimination of the working man to subsidize the entitlement generation, and for the impending World War III with Russia. You guys were so upset that he threatened to jail his political opponent because "that's what they do in dictatorships." Well if the shoe fits, wear it. She IS a fvcking criminal.

 

[BlueAlpha1]

It isn't over yet, not by a long shot.

Remember, they are rigging and tweaking the poll numbers more and more. They are running scared and we have to not fall for the propaganda efforts.

They lied about everything else, so I have no doubt they're lying about the polls. It's a tactic to get Trump supporters to give up and stay home, but I fear it could work. They're saying she's up by 15 now. And if it doesn't work and they actually have to throw ballets away or call an audible and commit MASSIVE voter fraud on November 8, they will do so. The machine is not going to LET him win, even if he gets more votes. They have literally BLOCKED his path to Pennsylvania Ave.

Even Republican sellout pimps like Paul Ryan are on team Shillary and are working with the DNC to bolster their own chances for 2020. This is not an election as much as it's a coronation of the next heir to the Bush-Clinton dual monarchy, accompanied by a hilarious dog and pony show that resembles an election within a democracy mixed with a WWE storyline.

He HAS to pull off Ohio and Florida, and also has to win 2 from North Carolina, Arizona, Virginia, Wisconsin. In this case, you've got a pretty close race.

But to play devil's advocate, she does have a fair amount of support. The Muslims love her, BLM loves her, radical feminists love her, and college-aged, metrosexual, virtue-signaling millennials love her. Out of sheer narcissism hey want to make "history" for the 2nd Presidency in a row. Couple those fringe groups with the automatic stranglehold over average women, and that's a pretty large cross-section of Americans who love free stuff and blaming the white man for everything.

 

[zekko]

But to play devil's advocate, she does have a fair amount of support. The Muslims love her, BLM loves her, radical feminists love her, and college-aged, metrosexual, virtue-signaling millennials love her.

That's the strength of the Democratic party. The Republicans are basically the "white male" party. So if you're not a white male, chances are you will support the Democrats. Special interest groups, minorities, and people who depend on entitlements have all increased in number, and that makes it much harder for the Republicans to win.

Despite what Danger said, I think it is over. The media isn't going to take the election for granted though, they are pulling out all the stops to insure the win. The fact that they are winning just makes the game more fun for them, and they draw energy from that.

 

[BlueAlpha1]

That's the strength of the Democratic party. The Republicans are basically the "white male" party. So if you're not a white male, chances are you will support the Democrats. Special interest groups, minorities, and people who depend on entitlements have all increased in number, and that makes it much harder for the Republicans to win.

Despite what Danger said, I think it is over. The media isn't going to take the election for granted though, they are pulling out all the stops to insure the win. The fact that they are winning just makes the game more fun for them, and they draw energy from that.

Which is why her and Obama's "Open Borders" wet dream is a key part of rigging the election. This is a formula. By opening the doors to tens of millions of illegal aliens and hundreds of thousands of Muslim "refugees", then resisting attempts at federal voter ID laws (not to mention the issue of massive voter fraud of casting ballots multiple times or ballots from dead people), they continue to move back the goalposts further and further for the Republicans. It's getting to a point if they don't win an election soon, elect conservative justices, and pass some laws at the federal level, they'll never win another election again. And that's BEFORE they instruct the media on how to distort. And no, it's not fair and square and not democracy. It's cheating - or "rigging" if you will.

 

[zekko]

Which is why her and Obama's "Open Borders" wet dream is a key part of rigging the election. This is a formula. By opening the doors to tens of millions of illegal aliens and hundreds of thousands of Muslim "refugees", then resisting attempts at federal voter ID laws (not to mention the issue of massive voter fraud of casting ballots multiple times or ballots from dead people), they continue to move back the goalposts further and further for the Republicans. It's getting to a point if they don't win an election soon, elect conservative justices, and pass some laws at the federal level, they'll never win another election again. And that's BEFORE they instruct the media on how to distort.

Good point. What the Democrats are great at is creating more voters for themselves. Whether it be by bringing in more immigrants or getting more people to depend on government programs. They've been working at it most of my life, and it's getting real close to the point of no return IMO.

 

[Bible_Belt]

Illegal immigration was up tenfold this year over the previous year. As soon as Obama stopped deportations, those people phoned home, told their friends and family about it, and now they are coming here. Most of them are from Central America, as Mexico's economy has improved. Obama thinks deportation is mean, which it is, but it's not nearly as bad as paying the drug cartels to human traffick you, and then getting murdered after they take your money. That happens all the time, a bus load of corpses turning up in Mexico. Weak border enforcement is what gets those people killed. They would not have attempted the trip otherwise.

Regarding the election, facebook is getting nasty. But most of the vitriol is coming from Hillary supporters against Trump supporters. I have to laugh when left wing people who think they are progressive say things like "anyone who votes for Trump should be punched in the face." Advocating violence against your political opponents is anything but progressive. It's actually a hallmark of fascism.

 

[Von]

No matter who wins... I am sick of this election.. It's just propaganda... I thought Trump communication was rude but speak truth.

Hilary has more composure and deliver better. However, she never answers anything and you can see... she's full of rage especially when called: "incompetant"

You guys are ****ed both ways. All the medias+establishment are spamming Hilary.... all social media/internet is pro-trump.

So between a narcissic entitled business man and a woman who"s out for revenge (after been cheated/lied/insulted/incompetant) for 40 years... we all doomed

It shows how the republican party seems death... and even in the democrats (sanders) people are feedup.

I fear that after the elections, buttons will be pushed.

The only winner will be Ivanka Trump with her own tv channel

 

[zekko]

I don't understand why people are so bent out of shape over what Trump said about accepting (or not accepting) the results on election day.

I'm glad you said that, I didn't understand why it was such a big deal either. I guess they are afraid it is going to cause more division in the country, when we have plenty of that already. Traditionally, the loser agrees to support the winner and help work for the good of the country, but that's mostly just posturing, and doesn't last long anyway (if at all).

I think Trump has brought up some important points. His problem is he is inarticulate and has zero sense of humor about himself.

Part of Trump's appeal is that he doesn't sound like a regular politician. As I noted before though, that isn't going to be enough.

Google Ronald Reagan's joke in 1984 about his opponent's "youth and inexperience" at the debate and you'll see what I mean.

Don't have to. As an old fart, I remember it well. They used to call Reagen "The Great Communicator", I guess Trump would be The Clumsy Communicator.

 

[Mike32ct]

I'm glad you said that, I didn't understand why it was such a big deal either. I guess they are afraid it is going to cause more division in the country, when we have plenty of that already. Traditionally, the loser agrees to support the winner and help work for the good of the country, but that's mostly just posturing, and doesn't last long anyway (if at all).

I think Trump is bluffing here, but either way, it's not a big deal. The media just wants to plant the seed about him "conceding" in people's minds, and he is smart enough to not take the bait.

If Hill does win, she will probably make some nice comments to "reach out" to Trump suppprters to address their concerns about the economy/trade and then do nothing for them lol.

Part of Trump's appeal is that he doesn't sound like a regular politician. As I noted before though, that isn't going to be enough.


Don't have to. As an old fart, I remember it well. They used to call Reagen "The Great Communicator", I guess Trump would be The Clumsy Communicator.

The American people do put a lot of weight on having a president who is a "good speaker." I personally don't care about that. I'd take someone with bad grammar and a stutter if he/she knows what they are doing lol.

 

[Floydispink01]

It isn't over yet, not by a long shot.

Remember, they are rigging and tweaking the poll numbers more and more. They are running scared and we have to not fall for the propaganda efforts.

Agree.

The media did the same over here in the UK on the Brexit Referendum. Even the bookmakers had the remain to win with odds on numbers. It was made out that it was going to be a landslide for a remain victory - Blatant propaganda basically.

Leave won.