The word "hot" and HB9/10 are overused.

[rhcp83]

I hear a lot of guys talking about their conquests or crushes and referring to them as "really hot" "9" or "10" and I think the word by most guys on this site is misused.

I was at a function tonight with my family and my uncle (who's 60, divorced and spins a lot of plates since he's in shape and looks young for his age) couldn't believe what he saw when he noticed this 30/early 40 year old woman. When I noticed her, I too was in awe. She had perfectly scpulted T n A...not too much makeup...blonde, nice face...a natural 10.

He noted that despite our age difference (I'm 28) and different preferences in women, both of us agreed dead-on about her.

(On a side note, she had a big ring on her finger and was holding hands with a short balding nerdy guy that looked like Frohike of the Lone Gunmen from X-Files...so money can apparently buy you a lot.)

My point is...despite 32 years apart, we both agreed that she was one of the most beautiful women we'd both seen in a while, and definitely the most beautiful woman ever to be in the function hall we attend.

I think when guys on here say "I banged a 9/10" what they really mean is that they banged a garden variety 6/7/7.5 that was "their 10."

While beauty is common especially in urban areas, true 10s (where 9 out of 10 guys would rate her an 8.5 or above and she would stand out in a room full of beautiful women) are not.

I think a lot of guys on here, when they say "I banged a 9/10" either are making up the story to begin with in some cases, and in the rest of the cases, just mean "I banged a cute/kind of hot girl that I personally thought was really hot."

I see a lot of guys taste on here, and the women are the over-used makeup, extra thin/possible fake tits/fake tan/overdressed type...the "fake" hot type that you can find them by the hundreds at any club. To me when I think 10, I mean a woman that is without flaws physically...a woman that your mormon cousin or 80 year old grandfather would notice.

And for me, that's what drives me. Most guys will never experience a woman like that, and if he does, it's via prostitution/paying, or he's extra rich/has a status job/has exceptional good looks...not because he got her with skill or be being himself (his best self.)

If I have to wait 5 or 6 years to experience a woman like this in bed (which I doubt it would/will be that long given my focus on self-improvement and sarging)...that would mean more to me than meeting some garden variety cutie tomorrow that I'm not even that sexually attracted to.

 

[Aaron B]

I agree with you for the most part

a 10 to me is someone like Salma Hayek

I've never seen a Salma Hayek in person

I've seen plenty of 9's, but no Salma's

 

[Chamber36]

Well I work in a night club and the hottest girl in the club tonight, I'll refer to as an HB8. Though she could also simply be a 9. She seemed pretty flawless to me. I've just seen hotter ones before.

I noticed that when I refer to them as HB9 they turn into an HB8 when they get a pimple. So they're not authentic 9's. Besides that, the whole scaling women is putting them on a pedestal.

I don't want to put a woman on a pedestal but there's no other way to really grade these girls.

1 thing I'm glad for though, is that no matter the looks of a prostitute, they're all the same price. So the number scale doesn't matter in Amsterdam.

And btw, getting a HB10 with your personality only..... That's rare.

The girl will have to see you as high value. It's possible for a HB10 to perceive a guy as high value.

But 99% of women only care about value as "perceived" value. Even when a girl liked you for your personality, it's because you had situational value to her.

Maybe you were being pre-selected by women, or you coincedentally had something in common with her.

But man, ANY time you got a girl, she wanted something from you.

Whether she wanted your affection, your attention, your c*ck, your money or your genetic offspring. No matter what, she wanted SOMETHING. She didn't just say hey you look like a nice/smart/goodlooking guy, let me give you this pvssy.

I'm going to sleep with an HB10 prostitute asap because I'm done with club girls. I respect prostitutes more because they don't deceive you.

 

[rhcp83]

Exactly. Salma isn't my type personally, but if I saw her or a woman that looked like her in public, she would stand out in a room full of other beautiful women.

What's funny is the girls that are 6/7s (to most guys) and act like they're 10s. I have a cousin that overdresses for casual family get-togethers, doesn't talk to anyone and is a real snob in general...and she's at best a 7. This is getting a little off-topic...but I think in her case, it's a case of being brought up as a princess (her dad has pet nicknames for her) and she was given everything she wanted monetarily and pampered and told how great she was.

 

[OC Speedball]

I agree with you. I brought this up in another thread a while back. People throw around the term HB9 and HB10 way too much. Personally, I don't even believe in a 10. Because a 10 means perfection.

And another thing is personal preference. What one person sees as a 10 may be an 8 to another person. As seen above ^. Aaron thinks Salma Hayek is a 10. In my mind there is no way she is a 10. I would say she is an 8 that seems hotter than she is because she's famous. And maybe it's because I live in southern California- there are tons of hot latin girls here. So if I saw a girl that looked like Salma Hayek I wouldn't even take a second look at her.

 

[Chamber36]

All the girls I might even consider a 10 would thus automatically be out of my league. I'd be willing to get One-itis for these women, if they showed me about 2 personality traits I like to accompany their flawless looks.

But then again I want to marry one....

Edit: there's only 2 women I would ever consider a 10 and I've never spoken to them. The only reason I consider them a 10 is because I don't know a thing about them. They're a blank sheet for me to project my idea of an ideal woman on, that's all. Nothing but nothing. Yet I wonder if I'll ever forget these girls.... (I think so!I will if I find anything better)

 

[Racecar]

The reason people use the rating system is it's the only relative, quantifiable means we have of assessing a woman's physical beauty unique to the user.

There is likely a normal distribution of attractive women in a given setting. If we took this rating system as literally as it seems you are proposing, running into an HB8 would be extremely rare.

Additionally, the current method of measure allows for value-based comparison. I opened a two-set last night consisting of what I described to a friend as an HB6.5 and an HB9. Now was the second girl an actual 9 relative to the entire pool of women in the world? Of course not. She was an extremely attractive woman to me. Her friend was average to me. There is a definite difference in their attractiveness as evidence by the huge gap in their ratings.

Would my description have the same effect if I accurately labeled one a 5.25 and the other a 6.5?

The hyperbole used in ratings serves the specific purpose of defining a woman's attractiveness relative to the person's personal assessment. Taste is subjective anyway, so attempting to objectively qualify women on some sort of standard scale wouldn't make much sense.

 

[rhcp83]

My point was that very few men have actually dated/slept with a woman that would be considered a knockout to most men...so when a guy has some "I banged a HB10" story it doesn't hold much merit as she's likely just some cute/pretty or even average looking woman that is a 10 to him.

Yeah, all that matters is what he thinks about her...but he's also trying to get cred at the same time, and I don't think many men have banged/ever will bang a true knockout in their lives, at least without paying for it (via escorts or being rich/famous/outstandingly good looking.)

What drives me is finding a woman that's a 10 to me, but also is a woman I know that very few men have had the pleasure of doing.

 

[pdx1138]

Part of it is bragging rights.

All someone needs to say is highly attractive, or just plain attractive.

HBXX is overstated/overused I tend to ignore that part.

 

[PDubb75]

Agreed. That is why I somewhat agree with the 0/1 scale. 0 if you are not interested, 1 if you are. Obviously, this gives no reference point, but as people have pointed out, the HB# might not be very telling either.

It also guards against pedastaling as a "6" you are attracted to and a "10" are given the same rating.

 

[SharinganUser]

Most guys have awful taste in women. It's not that the women that they are attracted to are not my type, it's that these women are objectively ugly.

 

[perseverance]

Agreed. That is why I somewhat agree with the 0/1 scale. 0 if you are not interested, 1 if you are. Obviously, this gives no reference point, but as people have pointed out, the HB# might not be very telling either.

It also guards against pedastaling as a "6" you are attracted to and a "10" are given the same rating.

That's the scale I use.

I don't think I've seen many women that are HB9's though. These skanks you see in clubs with more plastic and fakery on them than a barbie doll are not what I'd consider attractive. Yet the amount of men who laud these women and surround them in the clubs is nothing short of staggering, no wonder these women think the sun shines out of their rectum with the amount of fuss made over them by chumps.

 

[PapiChulo]

In Vancouver, anything with no teeth missing and no lazy eye is a solid 7. Actually normal women are like 10s, and someone who is a model is more like 13+ with a celebrity status. Real redneck women who live in Lower Mainland are actually sexier and more attractive than the Vancouver folk.

 

[zekko]

Agreed. That is why I somewhat agree with the 0/1 scale. 0 if you are not interested, 1 if you are. Obviously, this gives no reference point, but as people have pointed out, the HB# might not be very telling either.

Right, look what happens every time somebody posts a picture of a girl they consider a HB9 here. The next post will be somebody saying the girl is no better than a 5.

I was reading an article about Maryse, the WWE wrestler. I happen to think she is a smokingly hot attractive woman. But a guy wrote a comment saying she looked like a foot. I'm like WTF??

[/QUOTE=PDubb75]It also guards against pedastaling as a "6" you are attracted to and a "10" are given the same rating.[/QUOTE]
I agree there's something to be said for the "1/0" binary scale. But face it, there's a big difference between a 6 and a 10 anyway, no matter what you call it.

no wonder these women think the sun shines out of their rectum with the amount of fuss made over them by chumps.

Are you sure the fuss over them is being made by chumps? Or by PUAs?
Or by would be PUAs? Or maybe all of the above are chumps?

 

[PDubb75]

I was reading an article about Maryse, the WWE wrestler. I happen to think she is a smokingly hot attractive woman. But a guy wrote a comment saying she looked like a foot. I'm like WTF??

I just looked her up. I'm on your side!

 

[perseverance]

Are you sure the fuss over them is being made by chumps? Or by PUAs?
Or by would be PUAs? Or maybe all of the above are chumps?

I don't know they are or what they are, all I know is very few of these men leave the clubs with the women they want. I actually admire a lot of those men who try and pull in clubs, they sure as hell never give up, but ultimately I struggle to grasp how they enjoy their nights out because my idea of enjoyment is sipping on a Whisky mixer while dancing on the dancefloor. Trying to pull is the last thing on my mind in a club where there tends to be a larger guy-to-girl ratio.