The reality of Nice Guys finishing last

[Schadenfreudianslip]

A friend and I were talking about Nice Guys finishing last. We agreed that most of them get leftovers, but have such low standards that they see it as finishing last. I mean, it's no secret that Nice Guys are limited to the bottom of the barrel. Some examples of said leftovers are:

1) Single moms who need support of many kinds from somebody who will be more steady than their babydaddies.
2) Girls who have been broken by the Jerks, and like the fawning admiration received by Nice Guys until it gets sickening and they go back to actual men.
3) As women progress in the lifespan, some (SOME!) women start getting baby rabies and want a sperm donor/daddy/financial supporter for these fantasies of Stepford. In their minds, this fantasy is more important than the actual marriage, and Nice Guys are more than happy to go along with it. Eventually, they're reduced to wallets and are trapped by the fantasies that were once so romantic.

Anything else to add? This thread is not about bottom-of-the-barrel women, it's about the Nice Guys who gravitate towards them and in their desperation, see it as "finishing last."

 

[BeyondCharm]

Such a stupid song. This is a very untrue statement. I'm a nice guy, women love me and adore me, cook and clean for me and I still get laid. I just don't act overly-nice to the point where I am faking niceness to try and get something from a woman.

Even a girl who has been "Broken by a jerk" will love me because of how I make her feel.

The problem is people see "Nice guy" and "Being a man" to be impossible to exist in the same reality. They aren't. Being a nice person means caring and getting to like somebody for who they are, treating them well and making sure their safe/comfortable. But doing so without coming across like your reasons for doing so are to get in their pants. And also knowing when to simply be a man and take action.

Being nice does not mean being afraid to make bold moves, initiate, etc. Some people think being nice means acting feminine and waiting for her to tell you to rip her clothes off and bend her over. In my world, ripping her clothes off during wild passion is the nicest favor I could do for her, she got to just lie there and enjoy everything while I did all the clothes removin.

 

[Schadenfreudianslip]

BeyondCharm, do you know the real meaning of a "Nice Guy?" Nice Guys are guys doomed to friendship because they don't take initiative, and they get angry when their nice" actions don't get them what they want. Read some of the articles here to see what constitutes Nice Guys.

 

[BeyondCharm]

Schaden, who gives words meanings except people like you and I? Your definition of Nice guy can mean whatever you want it. I think AFC describes your definition better than "Nice guy" does. But, I do understand where you are coming from and I agree that they do get angry when nice. I've taken a lot of my real life friends under my wing to help curb them of these tendencies, and some of them have come a long long way, including having girlfriends that they'd never dreamed possible. Would I call them Nice guys, not by your definition. Some of them are nice people though, not all, but some.

My point is that being nice and getting laid are not mutually exclusive.