"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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The dark arts....being a jerk, I need some pointers

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Ok with the semester drawing to an end, I was planning on going back and spinning plates. However in my current predicament (and also due to laziness, lets face it, being a jerk takes less work) I would need to run jerk/bad boy game.

1st question, do they talk to women differently? Because reading from roissy it seems like what I was thinking about how a jerk would talk/act was kinda over the top that its almost like a caricature of a bad boy/jerk!

tl;dr teach me how to be a jerk!
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Like I had a school bully, and the dude was a total retard, I seriously cannot imagine him walking up to a girl and talking to her, like wtf man the guy is a tool.....like do those kind of people change their speech pattern or w/e in front of a woman?

oh and check this out;

http://www.tampabay.com/features/humaninterest/article1109362.ece

my inspiration tl;dr/spoiler: 2 chicks fighting over him and one ended up stabbing the other, all the while the dude did not even go to college, is 5'5", not even good looking and works at Chik-fil-a
 

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Women want a good guy, not a jerk. They are attracted to confidence, ability to not give a f$ck, and extreme masculinity, e.i. boldness and sexuality , that jerks project. Do the above while staying a good person, with integrity and you are good to go.
 

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Women don't want no nice guy. They want someone who can put them in their place.
 

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PapiChulo said:
Women want a good guy
Say that to death row inmates who get dozens of marriage proposal letters from women. Yes i'm talking about men getting marriage proposals from women not the other way around! And it happens to some of the most wicked men on earth.

So while death row inmates get marriage proposals your average good guy computer programmer who probably never hurt anybody in his life making good money gets spit on by women.

So please don't tell me women want a good guy cause frankly women just want whatever makes their vags tingle.

I'll just say this. It's not that women want good guys or bad guys but what is clear to me is that you are more likely to get a woman by being a jerk then walking old ladies across the street, going to clean up the beach on sundays, doing volunteer work and being an overall "good guy."
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Don't ever tell me women want a good guy ever again!!!

No shortage of women who dream of snaring a husband on Death Row / Experts ponder why deadliest criminals get so many proposals

Prison weddings in California are a regular occurrence. In general, about 20 inmates get married in ceremonies held on the first Friday of even-numbered months at San Quentin, and usually at least one condemned inmate is among them.

And Death Row inmates have no shortage of suitors. In fact, the more notorious the murderer, the less he has to work for female companionship, San Quentin spokesman Eric Messick said.

Letters of adoration flow in daily to Death Row inmates from all over the world, some of them 20 handwritten pages long.

Richard Allen Davis, the man who kidnapped 12-year-old Polly Klaas from her Petaluma home in 1993 and killed her, "probably gets more mail than most," Messick said. Richard Ramirez, the "Night Stalker" who killed 13 people and has more than a passing interest in Satanism, has women virtually throwing themselves at him despite the fact he is already married.
 

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Geez......I cant imagine what is going on in these women's heads as they send letters and stuff

Anyway, so how do I do this? Well, without killing people of course!
 

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Have you ever seen how a good looking woman reacts to a ****y insult?

Try it sometime, and act like you mean it, but smile.

She will try to work you out and when you see her confused little face, you know you have hooked her attention. Its a case of reeling her in then.

Attraction is built on the way you make a woman feel. What are you doing to the woman to build her feelings for you?

Here is THE GOLDEN FORMULA

Looking good+ confidence+ humour+ spontaneity= attractive
 

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backhanded compliments

EXAMPLES I FOUND ONLINE

"That's a terrific jacket! I didn't even know they made them like that anymore!"

"You have the greatest untapped potential of anyone I've ever dated."

"Relax, sweetie -- your sexual performance was perfectly adequate."

"You're very creative. I bet you're very popular with your dungeons & dragons friends."

"How on earth did you learn to Macarena so well?"

"Your plastic surgeon has such a delightful sense of humor!"

"Yeah, but in four years, he'll be just another college graduate looking for a job. *You'll* be a Home Depot assistant manager with four years of work experience."

"Good things *do* come in small packages, dear. And in short durations."

"Don't think of it as pyromania; you just really know how to light up a room!"

"How persistent you are! Most people would have given up and called someone competent by this point."

"Those blackheads form the cutest pattern!"

"Captain, congratulations for landing back on the carrier with your bomb load completely intact!"

"You're smart to do your laundry on Saturday night, when everyone else is out."

"Congratulations, Ryan. Your essay makes a convincing argument for a sweeping overhaul of our public educational system."

and the Number 1 Backhanded Compliment...

"Wow, that is one deep nostril!"
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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Example Passive Putdowns


You're so outside the circle of trust.
You're such a little ****.
I’ll bet your boyfriend complained about this about you.
You're back to square one with me, missy.
You're taking this WAY too seriously.
What else do you like about me?
Stop flirting with me.
You have beautiful eyes, can I touch them?
If that were true, you wouldn't love me.
You must've driven your parents crazy.
Give me a kiss on the cheek, and maybe I will let you forgive me.
I'm too high maintenance for you.
I'm so out of your league.
Let's play a game. Let's see how long you can hold your breath.
How short are you?
I’ve eaten pieces of **** like you for breakfast.
You're such a player.
Which one of you guys would win in a fight?
You guys remind me of the PowerPuff Girls.
You guys are like watching The View.
Do your parents know where you are?
Isn't this a school night?
You're makeup is smudged.
Bartender, you might want to check this girl's ID again.
We should hang out some time. You can help me pick up chicks.
You girls aren't tourists, are you?
Holy ****, you really don't know what you're doing, do you?
Careful girl, I'm a heartbreak waiting to happen.
Your ex-boyfriend sounds just like me.
I'm so emotionally unavailable right now.
I think you might make a nice friend.
We need to find you a man.
Where is your off button.
You are really wasted aren’t you.
I’m kinda a big deal.
 

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irocknike23 said:
i read that whole story(long read)
all i gota say is wow:eek: ...as if i didnt think girls are crazy before....i would never EVER in my life kill another dude(even if i hated him for other reasons) for a girl
try googling for the dude's name too just to give you an idea on who that girl killed for

did I mention he did not even have a car? and is 5'5"?
 

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JohnnyStrabler said:
try googling for the dude's name too just to give you an idea on who that girl killed for

did I mention he did not even have a car? and is 5'5"?
wuts the dudes last name?
 

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I disagree with the death row analogy because it's too extreme and the women who do so are nuts. It's out of place. Negging a woman is one thing, and stabbing a man is another.
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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PapiChulo said:
I disagree with the death row analogy because it's too extreme and the women who do so are nuts. It's out of place.
Yeah, that may seem disheartening on the face of it.
But women who propose to mass murderers are a very small minority, and it's fairly obvious they have deep issues.
Just like most guys are not serial killers, most women are not writing letters to guys in prison.
 

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irocknike23 said:
wuts the dudes last name?
His last name is Camacho

to know more about the story here is an NBC documentary

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8sGzDpQTukY



anyway, well I really doubt that only a few women will have sex with a man in prison/death row if given an opportunity, its like saying only low self-esteem women will go for the bad boys but we all know its not true! (read roissy's stuff he has tons of SCIENTIFIC evidence to back it up)

the same reason women will not admit that they will cheat on their beta husbands if given the chance, although we all know that they will
 

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JohnnyStrabler said:
His last name is Camacho

to know more about the story here is an NBC documentary

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8sGzDpQTukY



anyway, well I really doubt that only a few women will have sex with a man in prison/death row if given an opportunity, its like saying only low self-esteem women will go for the bad boys but we all know its not true! (read roissy's stuff he has tons of SCIENTIFIC evidence to back it up)

the same reason women will not admit that they will cheat on their beta husbands if given the chance, although we all know that they will
Women, particularly young attractive women, love bad boys. Being nice, or even being the mythical SoSuave "Good Man" gets you nowhere. It has nothing to do with low self-esteem. I argue otherwise. Many attractive women are so confident they could have any man they only chase what they can't have or bring under their control. Its only when they reach their 30s and the world is no longer at their feet they begin to scramble for a "good man"
 

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sstype said:
Women, particularly young attractive women, love bad boys. Being nice, or even being the mythical SoSuave "Good Man" gets you nowhere. It has nothing to do with low self-esteem. I argue otherwise. Many attractive women are so confident they could have any man they only chase what they can't have or bring under their control. Its only when they reach their 30s and the world is no longer at their feet they begin to scramble for a "good man"
That is what I said, its not about self-esteem. I dont even know why they like bad boys, however as I said on my first post up there its a better deal for us! Because now we can get the most amount of p#ssy for the least amount of work!

That, and would you do what "normal people in society" do and do the whole "just be nice, because women want to end up with the nice guys in the end"-routine thingy and get the bad boy leftovers?

JERKS UNITE!!!!!!
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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