The Big Age Gap Thread - Me 36 She 23

[SweetDannyJ]

Hi dudes!
Been aloooong time. Still ceck in every once in awhile to see what's up.

I've noticed there really isn't a versed huge age gap thread in here. I've dated a 21 year old, still kinda am, and currently a 23 year old. I have a possible third on the go.

When i started with the 21 yo, I didn't know where to start really. I'd like to gather a bunch of info from my exp. As well as anyone else in here. Maybe this can help anyone else in this sitch.

I'm not really gonna get into much here about the 21yo on account of the fact that she is so friggin mature. She's in uni in town and smart, straight forward, blah blah blah all the things you'd expect from someone 10 years older. Not much anyone can learn from her to translate to others her age.

HOWEVER! This flippin 23 yo whom I shall call nut job or nj from now on, she is another story and more closer relates to her age category and what u can expect in dating these younger broads. Any exp. I can share here will def help anyone in this similar sitch.

She's got a 10 body. No word of a lie. I have high standards and this broad has the tightest perfectly portioned bods I've ever seen. Mostly why I'm ok with the under 8 face. Not ugly by any means. She's quite attractive. Just not an 8.

She's in uni and works part time as a waitress. Caught her eyes a couple times as she passed my table. we latest moved into her section as ours filled up with some kinda kid's soccer team or some****. Even the dads sectioned themselves off which was funny.

So we sit down. She comes by and I introduce the table to her and she returns her name. Says "be nice to me guys" or something stupid like that. We small talk throughout the night. Then I head to bathroom. I thought being away from the table would be good for either her to say something to me or vice versa. I know she was intrigued so I waited for her to be at her station alone. Walked by and she said something to which I stopped and replied with some witty **** she ate up. On my way back, she was still there. I went in without any pickup line and just winged it. I made something up about my phone on the fly and it turned out to be pure genius. I'm not sharing it lol. Got her number, sent a "noter round please" text so she'd have my num. She pinged me later that night to make sure I got home ok.

So that's all there was to the start. I don't wanna make this a long post of 10 different things so I'll. Journal this from here on out and keep it updated so it might help anyone else.

I should note. I'm a bit of hard ass on girls. Thanks to options, I don't pedistal, or give in or appologise or any of that girly stuff so try to take out what you can and understand this will be more of a pushing the boundaries to see both what is required to keep them around and in lala land with you, and also how far is to far

 

[SweetDannyJ]

Ok. So I waitd about a week to ping her. I learned real quick with her not to txt to often or really even ask her out anywhere. I did ask her to join me one night to which she immediately denied and tried to get me to join her. Not my first rodeo so that went nowhere. Never lose home advantage no matter what. Never leave where you are and join her :nono:

The following week she pinged me. This was a full week since I last asked her to join me. Didn't bother texting her but was about until she beat me to it. Asked what was up and I was out with some buds crushin beer. She was on the Otherside of town so nothing materialized.

This has been two weeks now with no FaceTime. This is just a bout as long as you can go with any broad let alone a firey youngster with her own bag of options.

To do nothing more than show my interest, the next night I asked if she was working as I would come in for some beers and watch the game. She just finished work and said she'd like to catch up and will wait for me at the bar.

So, I come in and sit at the bar. She's nervous as all hell so I tried my best to ease things with some immediate situational observations. It was a full of old people in the front of the resto so "wow you guys play bingo here? Can I call some numbers" just crap like that to get her mind at ease cause she was visibly shaking. Couple minutes of that and she was calming down and I started to ask about role like "do you ever get to work the bar". Get her used to this stranger asking her questions. Go in light first. We eventually got to really world stuff.

So www have a few beers and throughout the convo I make sure to hold some of the crap he was saying. She happens to tell 8 stories a minute. Full of energy. She likes live music so I say let's hit this other joint and watch this guy play, he's money. She's in and we head out.

She likes her beers. Can't say she can handle them all that well, but she can and likes to party. Good thing for me.

We hit the next spot. This is so key. I know this spot well. Lots of people know me so it's a string of "hey bro" and so forth. Nothing interruptive, just a bit of dhv as well my home advantage. She clings to me cause I'm the only thing she knows, which just doubled the second we walled into a bar she doesn't know

Once the beer and music takes over and finish the job of loosening her up the night was all mine. She was having an amazing time just kicking around and kept verbalizing it all night.

We ended going back to her place after so the night was successful thus far.

I kept a few beers light as I knew I needed my wits. They came in handy when she almost had her panties off and I bailed. Now, if this only took 2 minutes I wouldnt have gone anywhere. But there were tons of games being played by her as you can well imagine. Must have been 30 minutes of LR and push pull. If I was hammered, I may have been abrupt and azzholey about it. But I just moved slowly off the bed with her moving with me on her own. Kissing while backing up slowly. Then I said I had to head out. It's important that i said I had a fun time. Never want them thinking they might have acted slutty. This kills the slut in them. This is bad.

She actually called while I was driving home... A 23yo in the texting age called me at 4 in the morning to ask me to turn around. Again, "it was a fun night. I look forward to giving you another one" and didn't text her for a few days. You don't want to wait too long after something like that. Games are games, but you gotta put that stuff aside after moments of intimacy. That goes for any age.

I'll keep a new post for every interaction leading to dates. Theresa plenty moree that I will update over the next few days to bring everyone up to the current time.

 

[Die Hard]

I love these kinda threads, keep it coming!

 

[bilboteabaggins]

goddamn this is sweet...LOL

 

[bigneil]

It's great that you can still attract 23 year old's at age 36. That's how you'll get a 30 year old to fall in love with you - knowing she has that kind of competition.

But I think the important thing to remember is that these 23 year old girls are "fly by night", and it's often "out of sight out of mind" with older guys. We need to just enjoy our time with them, accept validation from them that we haven't lost it, but absolutely not fall in love with them or expect anything long term. There is no tomorrow with these girls.

 

[SweetDannyJ]

The next time we got together, things started to get a lot more fun and interesting.

First, it had been about a week since I saw her. Texted a bit but it was time to see her again so I sent her text saying join me. A buddy and myself were out across town. She was out with a buddy as well on the other side. Playing hard to get the way she does, here response was obvious "I'm way over here, I tnk you should come join me" about an hour had past and she had sent a few more texts that I didn't see but it was just crap like "I'll see if my friend wants to come out there, but I doubt it. You're gonna have to come here"

I knew I needed to pull something out big... she loves my body. I'm heavily into eating healthy and working out. I sent a pic from my phone of me on the beach. Just out of the water, sun on the abs and so forth. So then her next text was "be there in 15" lol. I chalked that up to her usually having her way and being used to having the upper hand with the dorks she dates. I later confirmed that which I'll write about.

I honestly wanted to go to the area she was in. This part of town blows. So I told her to meet me at "X" in 20 instead. No excuses were ness. As she was already coming to me.

This is fun part. The partr where her incredible sh!t tests come shining through. Every single one of them were designed to find a ***** and spit him out. Been there done that a loooong time ago.

First test: Flirting. Accepting lures from dudes.
After her not turfing a few flirters i said screw this noise. I know what she's doing and you can't tell a broad you don't care. You have to show her. So I saw one dude eyeing her up so when she went to bathroom I called him over to the table and bailed to another table. "ya man, giver sh!t!" It was hilarious watching her looking everywhere for me not giving this poor guy one sec. You know if I stayed there she'd of been all flirty. I just stood at another table and talked to the people sitting there. She grabbed me hard "what are you doing?! Don't do that again!" I was just laughing "give the guy a chance damn it" you'd be surprised how much closer girls get to you thoe more you pass their tests. She hasn't tried anything like that since. And when guys do come up to her, she grabs me immediately. I heard a dud the other night go "what's with you?" and she simply said "you're not him".

Second test: not sure what to call it. Chase me you *****?
She was outside on the patio. It was getting late. She just starts slowly to the gate. I don't move but could tell she wanted me to chase and say "hey don't go!" I just turned around and went back inside. She followed me soon after and but then tried again. At the table, i was talking to a buddy, she goes "I'm gonna leave now" I just said "grab the tab on your way out" and kept my convo going.

Finally when we left she said what I knew she was just dying to say "I hate you! I don't know what is going on and you're terrifying me. I always have the upper hand but with you, i just can't figure it out" that right there is what all these broads want. A fvckin man. That's it. In the same respect that we want a girl to smell like a flower and have soft skin, they want a dude to take over, pick them up, tease and not puss out like another girl.

She tried again with the "I'm going this way" as we were walking out. I let her go and 5 minutes later she was running up the street behind me yelling my name to wait. Once she caught up to me, she didnt say a word, grabbed my hand, took me behind a building and blew me in the alley. She felt so controlled and submissive from all tests I blasted through she didn't what to do anything other than please the sh!t out of me.

This is just the start. It gets way more fun. And a lot more crazy but I have many more tests she has thrown at me since. Which actually finally stopped last week. Tbc

 

[SweetDannyJ]

I want to write in the middle here what I had been thinking up to this point. It had been about 4 weeks up to this point and I had no idea how to initially attack this. I ended up doing what everyone should do but let me play out my thoughts, actions and what transpired because of them. It might help anyone in a similar sitch. The sex is insane if you grab one of these honeys and I want to lend as much info as I can Not to mention the friends, your friends can cash in on.

Side note. I journal every single girl I date on my iPad. Every single thing that happened. I ran into a oneitis over a year ago for the first time in my life. Scared the sh!t out of me so I made it my goal to learn from everything, Wrong or right, from that point on. If you don't do it. Do it! I made a few mistakes in the beginning but I've learned from every single one. And haven't forgotten. Zhit like texting when i didn't have to. Saying too much. Little things add up.

Ok. So I mentioned that I learned early on not to text or ask too much from this one. I know that already for broads in general, but this one was even more so. Also, call broads broads. They love it not really, but when you do the things you do without conviction they just repeat it the first time under their breath, then they accept it. I don't care what girls think or say so I do what I want when I want. I guess it's my own sh!t test to weed out the churchies and tight wads.

So I texted this girl in the beginning pretty much a total of 15 words, spread over 3 or 4 texts inside the first two weeks. It was just enough to hit the border of too much with this thing. Gotta find a way to get what you wanna say out in the least amount of words.

After the first few weeks when things got more comfortable, I would send longer texts. One night she actually said "anyone every tell you you talk too much?" this had maybe 30 words in it. Mind you i was drunk and telling her how these two broads wouldn't leave me alone at the bar. Her first response was "I don't like this, but who am I to say" then I kept going cause I was trying to push the limits of what she could take. Some of the sh!t I was saying wasn't too nice, but it was the truth. I never lie, but sometimes I'm a little too blunt the girls were ripping my shirt off and going crazy. Nothing happened with them that night, but I realized that NJ has quite the extensive "play pen" for me.

Even as she got More attached to me, she still had this mind set that i assume all the young ones have. Games games games... Man alive. She does the things peeps here say to do, like wait large to respond. If I'm by my phone, I respond. B!tches are attached to their phone. Just fvckin respond b!tch! I hate that sh!t. It does everything BUT turn me on. Anyways, dudes. They are just playing games. Don't over analyze this. Don't think on auto pilot with the low IL theory. Every girl in my wheel house right now does it. One of the girls says I took over all 3 of her top spots. She does anything for me. But she still waits large to respond. They all do and it does not mean low IL by any means so never lose your cool. Say your sh!t and wait. If you have a hard time waiting there really is no better advice than the time tested 'spin more plates'. It just works.

This b!tch also has more energy in the wrong places so you older boys have some zhit to put up with, which is hard. I mean I get embarrassed by some of the goofy zhit. Dancing like a moron. Doing general young girl stuff in an average peeps pub. It's just the booze though. She's really smart and behaved any other time. Just make sure they don't tip too many I left baby sitting when I was 13.

Here's quite possibly the biggest thing:for me anyway
I don't take sh!t from any girl. Mouthy, disrespect, thoughtlessness. Negativity from a girl is like riding the bus naked and you've been cursed with a small d!ck, but only when you ride the bus. I learned some néw stuff from the youngen. Like, when she gets a little yippy. I may just be hungover or Tired and not into talking and I'll say "I don't put up with a mouth like yours and I'm not about to start. See ya when I see ya". Once, I followed it up two days later and I realized I didn't have to. Saying "I may have been a little harsh" her reaction was more of a "phew!" hidden inside of a "well you need to talk to me about these things and not just bail on me" kinda response.

What I learned was that my follow up soften my shell a bit and she thinks it's ok to just wait it out and I'll renag or something. Lost a bit of fear. This is not something I'm trying to instill in her. I really have no fear when I'm spinning plates but softness is a female trait best left to the pvssy AFC guys she has dated, and keeps telling me I'm NOT like. Make that, thanking me I'm not like. All the while saying how she hates it I love that. "I hate that you're so cool and calm and run the show. But Im glad you're not like anyone else" NJ is a horse that needs breaking in thanks to pvssy duds she's used to bossing around. Make no mistake, she loves it.

One last thing. She has been trying to get me to commit to her. Even partially commit, whatever the funk that means. She knows I get attention and wants to be the only one. It's only been maybe 8weeks so far. Not long enough. Quite possibly the biggest test she has thrown at me is the "do you fetal position under pressure and tell me what I want to hear?" test. Her buddy told her I was making out with some broad at a bar. She asked me about it and said "we are looking for different things". I had a bracket and earrings on my night stand. She didn't like that too much, but I did not offer any goofy "my friend slept here while I was away" or some crap. I told her the truth. I'm a single bull about town. When I commit, I commit, but I'm not about to put my life on hold for anyone until I'm sure. I offered nothing more and she never brought it up again.

I honestly think if I tried to weasel around it she would have thought I was a pvssy and not responsible for my own actions. She continues to push for a commit and that jewelry left here has not bothered her since because I was open and honest with her.