"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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the BEST POSSIBLE WAY to find the girl of your dreams!!

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Blond? Brunette?
Tall? Short?
Older? Younger?
Athletic? Stout?
Blue eyes? Brown eyes?
Creative? Intellectual?
Foreign? Domestic?
Quiet? Outgoing?
Homebody? Partier?
etcetera....

You guys are telling me that you have no idea of your preferences and you you will sarge anything that you can insert "tab A" into "slot B??!!" :confused:
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Qmanchoo said:
...I appreciate where you're coming from Francisco, but what advice would you give to someone very inexperienced? You could say only search for women that fit something you want... but without experience how do you truly know what you want in order to ensure you're not just trying to fit a cultural norm?...
One question you need to ask yourself, "what type of woman am I attracted to?" What do you like both esthetically and personality wise. And about cultural norms... Personally I try to avoid them whenever possible. ;)
 

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someone with 6797 posts instantly loses all credibility. i'm sorry but it's true
 

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Actually no a$$hat, at his rate he only made about 7-9 posts a day, that's about 10 minutes worth of posting a day over the time there.

I have less credibility than him, I'm at like 15 posts a day, so if anything point fingers at people who joined in 06, oh, like yourself I see :p.

Anyway onto the physical I agree with francisco, and I agree with him to know personality types, all I disagree with is that not approaching because she might not be your type is wrong, but I think I may have gotten you wrong on that one francisco, if you care to elaborate.
 

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I can't even follow Skippy's posts. I think he must get up in the morning praying that when he looks in the mirror that he will see a black man staring back at him. Personally, I believe in quality over quantity. The smart male finds girls that he can mold into what is best for her and him.
 

“The 22 Psychological Triggers That Make Women Chase You… Starting Tonight”

Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.

I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.

Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules.  Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.

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BingoBango said:
someone with 6797 posts instantly loses all credibility. i'm sorry but it's true
My credibility would be even worse if I based it on the opinion from someone of the likes of you. :rolleyes:

Here's a bit of personal advice for you, take it or leave it; "Better to keep your mouth closed and be thought a fool than to open it and remove all doubt." Whoops, it's already too late for you! :crackup:
 

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pooparu said:
...Anyway onto the physical I agree with francisco, and I agree with him to know personality types, all I disagree with is that not approaching because she might not be your type is wrong, but I think I may have gotten you wrong on that one francisco, if you care to elaborate.
I wasn't implying that guys shouldn't approach, trust me. What I'm saying is to be selective about who you approach instead of just approaching for the sake of approaching. In other words, sarge purposely.

One thing you'll notice when you come into your own and feel that you can approach anyone you'd like, you'll realize that it's a waste of time and effort to approach everyone. You'll even realize that you're better than that, that not all women are worth your effort. it's all about qualifying based on your predefined criteria. Women are naturally discerning, why shouldn't guys also?
 

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... Hot women? That is a pretty good category for me.

As to be more exact - 5"4-5"7 Long Black hair, Bright eyes, Darker skin tone, nice ass and at least large B's (or fake).

Or a hor blond with the same qualities. Jesus, see why this is not very practical?

Then we would need to get to IQ and Intelligence, but alas this is where it gets fuzzy.
 

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Francisco d'Anconia said:
I wasn't implying that guys shouldn't approach, trust me. What I'm saying is to be selective about who you approach instead of just approaching for the sake of approaching. In other words, sarge purposely.

One thing you'll notice when you come into your own and feel that you can approach anyone you'd like, you'll realize that it's a waste of time and effort to approach everyone. You'll even realize that you're better than that, that not all women are worth your effort. it's all about qualifying based on your predefined criteria. Women are naturally discerning, why shouldn't guys also?
That's pretty ****ing gold right there. I think you give me a small "aha" moment. I do qualify with looks, but I'll still compromise sometimes if I think a woman might be different even if I normally "don't go" for those types of girls. I think, if I understand you correctly, that I should just set up my boundaries and STICK WITH THEM, because there is going to be a woman that looks as good as say that red head (not htat I don't like them), WITH the personality to match, and I won't have compromised my standards for going for strictly brunettes. Its a crude example, but I think I'm starting to get this, and like it. If there's anymore please share, I'm sure alot of guys would like to hear about more about this, I qualify a woman, but I think if I combine your way with some of my own it'll make it htat much quicker to meet better women.
 

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That's pretty ****ing gold right there. I think you give me a small "aha" moment. I do qualify with looks, but I'll still compromise sometimes if I think a woman might be different even if I normally "don't go" for those types of girls. I think, if I understand you correctly, that I should just set up my boundaries and STICK WITH THEM, because there is going to be a woman that looks as good as say that red head (not htat I don't like them), WITH the personality to match, and I won't have compromised my standards for going for strictly brunettes. Its a crude example, but I think I'm starting to get this, and like it. If there's anymore please share, I'm sure alot of guys would like to hear about more about this, I qualify a woman, but I think if I combine your way with some of my own it'll make it htat much quicker to meet better women.
You've got it but there one caveat; you stick with your qualifications as long as they still interest you. There's no shame in changing your criteria but again, have some idea of what type of woman attracts you.

So often guys post to the forum about how women suck in some way or another. That the woman turned out to be a b1tch, wh0re, slut, skank or whatever. I ask these guys why it took so long for them to realize this. They usually say that they didn't know or that it wasn't that bad in the beginning.

I say if she's not of your liking, NEXT! Why stick around in hopes that things may change? Wouldn't it be easier to just sarge women that interest you?
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Francisco d'Anconia said:
I wasn't implying that guys shouldn't approach, trust me. What I'm saying is to be selective about who you approach instead of just approaching for the sake of approaching. In other words, sarge purposely.

One thing you'll notice when you come into your own and feel that you can approach anyone you'd like, you'll realize that it's a waste of time and effort to approach everyone. You'll even realize that you're better than that, that not all women are worth your effort. it's all about qualifying based on your predefined criteria. Women are naturally discerning, why shouldn't guys also?
The other day I made a post on this forum disagreeing with the OP and this fits into why I did so. I know in the past I've agreed with Fransciso about approaching. From my understanding we are very similar in that we both have the problem with flirting too much. I guess that problem is relative though.

When a man becomes comfortable in his own skin it isn't about seeking out the most girls possible, but instead is about narrowing down the best women possible. The distinction does come with practice and shouldn't be overlooked, but qualification is the best aspect of this site. Perhaps this is why I stress that meeting girls in person and getting to know them before sleeping with them is important. I think a girl who will sleep with you on the first date is nothing less than a floosy. At the same time I wont wait for more than 3 dates. This is in my general rules of qualification, if a girl is too easy than why bother? If a girl is too difficult then why bother? I am more likely at this stage to keep the one who is holding out (although not for too much longer) than the one who is being a $lut.

Looks are a very important aspect of successful LTRs and I wouldn't deny that. One thing that overrides looks is compatability. I can be with the best looking girl in the world but still be bored out of my mind. On the other hand I can spend some time with a more average girl who has her life together and be turned on. Qualifications, like look scales, are very relative. Things change based on where you are and what you are doing. A smart man will look ahead and qualify women based on his best, and worst, outcomes before settling down with her.
 
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I think most of the guys here really need to follow what Francisco said, you really need to ask yourself "what girls am I the most into?"

If you don't have a set plan, you're just walking blindly
 

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You guys are getting it. Sarge purposely and you have a better chance of avoiding the nasty surprises of walking in blindly.

Belividere, you hit the nail on the head. I do flirt too much. At least there has been more than a few instances where it was thought I was trying to pick them up and all I was doing was making conversation; gotta watch that. I will say that it makes it easy to tell if a woman is digging you or not. The really cool ones will play along and toss in a bit of kino themselves. :up:

None the less, success is achieved most often when specific goals are set. Maybe for some guys it quantity, others quality. It depends on what you are looking for. But that brings us back to the issue at hand; how can find something if you don't have any idea what you are looking for? :confused:
 
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