"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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The Approach?

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Hello everyone, I found this board through a Bodybuilding board that I frequent. I have read quite a bit of the basics but I am in need of answers that I think all of you can help me with.
I met this girl about 8 years ago no biggie we went to the same Middle school and rode the same bus route to and from school since we live in the same general area. You could say I had a "Crush" on her at the time. There are not many details that I know about her because I transferred schools yada yada. I bump into her probably 6 months or so ago at the place where she works. Here is where it gets weird I am in her checkout line (she works at a grocery store) I am with a friend of mine buying beer random stuff and she looks at me and says “You look familiar….is your name*****” she throws out my first and last name and the drop of a hat. I felt like an ass because I didn’t recognize her because she has grown up and her appearance has changed. I read her name tag and I say “Yeah haw you been etc” after small talk I grab my things and leave. I didn’t even make it outside the store before my friend is busting my balls cause she threw out numerous signs; Playing with her hair, excessive smiling, Giggling at about everything I say. My friend is busting my balls the entire ride home since I didn’t do anything. I am at aww that I didn’t notice it while it was happening.
Here is where the problem is I can talk to women without skipping a beat, if I strike out so what **** happens. I actually have never really had a problem talking to any women mainly because I talk to them for a living at my job. I have some block that won’t allow me to go talk to her; I find myself grocery shopping TO often now. When I go to buy random items that I don’t need I will see her and I puss out and when we make eye contact I nod…. I don’t quite understand what is going on I get nervous and shut down. I am asking anyone that has a voice to throw their opinion in the pot on how I might break the ice. I figured I would run into eventually outside her job and it might be easier but I have procrastinated enough and I need to take action before the time and opportunity passes.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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HuuBinh

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I think that since she seems to be attracted to you.

Next time you check out say: listen (name), I know we haven't seen each other for a long time, now that you're here, I think that maybe we should get to know each other better, lets grab a drink after you get off, give me your number.

Isn't that what you want? Do a sincere approach.
 

I_Only_Live_Once

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Just don't procrastinate. Remember that life is what you make it. Take charge of the moment, seize your opportunities. As they say: no guts, no glory.
 

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Sincere

I for sure would rather the sincere approach i can easily feed a line of bull**** but she is different from other women and i wanna start off on the right foot.
 

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1) Read the DJ bible. In regards of attraction, women AREN'T different. She may have a good personality and so on so on, BUT she is attracted to the same things that women in general are. Men have their common guidelines too.

2) Do you want to start in the right foot? That's exactly what the advice here is saying! TAKE ACTION dude! Ask her out! If she says yes, there's a possibility. If she says NO, well, you can listen right? :) Simple, direct and no-bullshyt-allowed!

And welcome to the board!
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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