"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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FLstud83

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I decided I was tired of lowering my standards just because I only rarely get laid or go out with chicks. So I met this girl on myspace and sent her an IM and "tried" to have a conversation with her since I thought she seemed artistic, cute, and liked a lot of the same bands as me. But as it turns out, although I asked many questions and tried to show some humor, it was like talking to a wall. It just seemed like no matter what I said or asked her, I couldn't get a rise out of her and she didn't ask me a single question about myself. I'm so pissed and trying not to let it be a blow to my confidence but I can't seem to keep girls interested and it's bothering me because I know I'm decent looking and have some personality. The only time I got any rise out of her was when I aligned what I was looking for in a girl with what she was looking for in a guy. I remember the last thing I asked her was "what do you feel is your best physical feature?" and she signed off on me. lol

I'm so tired of meeting chicks that it's starting to become like a task and not as much fun. I feel like I'm not good at busting on chicks with negs and I'm losing my humor because chicks don't always find it amusing or like it. I want to meet a girl I'm actually attracted to who will reciprocate but it just seems like although sometimes I'm good at being attractive/seductive, I just don't have it. I've never had a girlfriend....just met a bunch of women and ****ed but usually only once and then they're gone from the picture (sometimes because I'm not really into them in the first place and sometimes because I turn them off somehow or they just lose interest). I'm 25 and feel like with as much as I have to offer, I should be past this point and it should be a non-issue by now. It's funny how many people over the years are surprised when I say I don't have a gf. I want to meet quality girls but somehow my conversation leads nowhere or I meet up and have a good time and then suddenly it's over with. I just feel like I'm getting avoided like the plague one way or another and don't understand why. What the **** is wrong with me?
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Max Power

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I'm the same as you.

I have no problem talking to women in my social circle but women outside it bore me and I quickly run out of **** to talk or they say something that makes me think they're of low value and I lose interest.

About the only time I can talk to women without this happening is when I'm drunk and really, really only interested in one thing.

I have dates and lose interest.

If I have sex with them and I go out with them on other dates I look around and can only see the hotter women in the place and wish I could ditch them and hit on the other women ... (I have done this a couple of times)

Yeah ... what the hell is wrong with us?
 

FLstud83

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the difference is, THEY lose interest in me....not the other way around. I just can't seem to find someone who stays interested in me and who actually fits the criteria or exhibits the qualities I'm looking for....or I talk to a girl who I think does match up with all of that but then she doesn't reciprocate and has very little if any interest in me. Although I'm starting to get to a point where women are causing me to lose interest in them as well....because it doesn't seem to matter how many of them I meet, for the same few reasons it never goes anywhere and I can't seem to CORRECT this!!!
 

bigjohnson

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It can work, I lined up a bunch of prospective plates in my recent foreign tropical destination before going there, via IM and similar means. Lots of whores, but a whore trying to impress you can be fun on vacation too.

Some genuinely sweet girls as well.

Stay tuned as the saga continues.
 

Wodan

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I think you find girls on IM that are bad at expressing themselves and want to be totally led through conversation, but alot will open up if you ask them the right things, ask them about something that intrests them and then ask them to expand on it and add humour.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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