Talking to an old girl friend for 6 months on email, I need help getting her number!

[RollsandRoyce]

I’m a bit newer at this, but have been just lately reading up and studying and working on my game and just want to keep it up until I get good at it. I just want to thank everyone in advance for taking a look at my thread and possibly giving me some tips. I’ll explain the situation a bit more in depth so you guys can possible advise me on how to better deal with the situation I currently got going on

Here’s the situation. I knew this girl when we we’re a lot younger like early teens, and her family, and her family knows my fam too. Now I’m Russian and what had happened like me growing up we lived in that more wealthy type of Russian life style as this girl does, and at that age like 15 or so my parents start getting a divorce and there was just a lot of bad blood and all sorts of gossip around me and my family, me and the girl by this time we weren’t talking but she knew of everything that was happening as did every Russian that lived in LA at that time.
So I ended up after that like with my mom and there was like no more money, from that point on I grew up with out it, and was just kind like out of that rich Russian circle, where the girl has stayed in since.

I’ve dated a few other girls and this and that. Went to school, now work and now am in the process of launching my own business and promoting it. So I’m doing a lot better these days.

A lot of time passes and I just remember this girl and just want to contact her.

So like in Mid 2007 I tried contacting her and I kind of efft that up and just did it the wrong way, so bad so that she tells me on the phone that she never wants to have any contact with me. And it wasn’t that bad and all I was just a bit more open about my feelings in the letter I sent her in the mail, but she took it the wrong way.

Ok so I realize I maybe took the wrong approach of contacting her after not doing so for so long. So more time passes and I see that she has facebook this is in like May 2008 I write her a nice message with a simple apology about all that. I got no response.


In July I just saw like an ad on Yahoo that looked like her and I on Facebook I write:

There's an AD on YAHOO.com on the opening page this girl
holding money it reads:
Safe places to stash cash

I was wondering if it was you: It looks a lot like you.
I have a screen shot of it if you want to see it.


And it worked she responds, she was like lol I don’t think it’s me.

And since then we have like about 170 threads of talk between us.
Now in Jan she approved me as a friend on the Fbook. I get her email and we are now talking by email.

My goal with this girl is that I just feel some sort of chemistry or there is just something about her that I like and really just want to hangout. But back to the goal I want to get her number from her and call, chat and just invite her to a casual get together at a coffee shop and see if we have what I have been feeling.

So I want you to see these latest emails and help me respond, I’m not exactly sure how to respond. My goal though is to respond in way that makes me hit all the right spots. I feel with just a little bit more work I will achieve the goal of getting her number.

She writes how she’s finishing school and wants to get a job in the fashion Indus. And just has no idea of how too and that it’s really hard.

So this is what I write. LOL and know I’m just starting too work on my game and talk so that it’s interesting and challenging.

My email to her:

Do you have a resume already to go or no you haven't done that either?
If you don't have one yet, just put in the initial stuff like the foundation in place.
For whatever field you want to apply for like example fashion we will then a bit later add stuff to your resume that will look attractive to a fashion exec. You have to know who you are targeting and setup your resume for that field, so it looks attractive to them
I've reviewed so many people's resumes, maybe a few hundred in 2008 and interviewed face to face like 20-30 people, and hired 5 people for various things that have been needed for my business.
I'm better at reviewing them then writing them, but I have a good idea of what a good resume looks like.
So if you don't got one, definitely make one, and send it over and I'll let you know if it's any good, and help prepare you for potential interviews.
You have a fairly good personality; you make a pretty rosy appearance. For example if you came to my office I might consider you, and possibly invite you for a 2nd interview, unless you wore the colorful shirt, then forget about it. But before all that we still need to go through the initial phone interview to see how you do on that. For the phone interview I would need your resume to know what to base the conversation on.

I have a favorite source of where to look for and find these very cool high end jobs quickly. I'm considering giving it to you, but only if you do well on the phone interview!



Her Response:

Umm...if ur saying ud only suggest a source if you got to speak with me over the phone, u can save urself the time and offer. I don't need any offers with conditions! Take care of urself!

My Response:
You said you want a job in the fashion industry business side.
Every job that you apply for where you don’t know the person and they don’t know you, like you have no inside help.
They are all, and I mean all going to be jobs with conditions, every single one.
That’s why I worded my email like that, so that it's challenging.
Once you right away saw a little bit of a challenge, you got upset about it. They are all punks and I came out kind of nice compared to them they wont do that. Its easy of course if you have people like your parents or friends that know someone and hook it up, but if you don’t its going to be like this and worse. I know so I wanted not only to tell you about it but show you.

Her Response:
I do not feel comfortable having a phone conversation with you at this point in my life. This email thing is fine and dandy. I wouldn't mind speaking to a stranger and interviewing several times. Its completely different for u to interview me. Thanks for the care and effort. I will face whatever challenges I come across, I'm not afraid.



Now honestly I feel like she’s really opening up. I feel that I have to respond accordingly here, so I need your guys help with the response and just some advice.

Thanks

 

[RollsandRoyce]

How about this what do you think?

What makes you thing I want to conversate with you like that. This email thing is fine and dandy.
It's a simple professional interview not a conversation. If you weren't scared then you would do it!
With a stranger...come on...
Two billion years of evolution and that's what you come up with.

 

[Desdinova]

Let's play a game called "Count the Rejections"...

#1: she tells me on the phone that she never wants to have any contact with me.
#2: May 2008 I write her a nice message with a simple apology about all that. I got no response.
#3: "if ur saying ud only suggest a source if you got to speak with me over the phone, u can save urself the time and offer."
#4: "I do not feel comfortable having a phone conversation with you at this point in my life."

Now honestly I feel like she’s really opening up.

You've got to be fvcking kidding. This woman wants absolutely NOTHING to do with you. She's rejected you numerous times. No matter how many favors you offer to do for this woman, she will continue to reject you. Doing favors for women doesn't make them fall in love with you. You're trying to push these favors upon her which is showing your desperation for her acceptance, which you will NOT recieve.

This woman is NOT interested in you, and probably never will be. Quit wasting your time. Cut all contact with her and move on.

 

[WalkingStick]

This woman is NOT interested in you, and probably never will be. Quit wasting your time. Cut all contact with her and move on.

Yep, she has said many times (and VERY plainly) that she is not interested. You may not like it, but you got along fine without her until now, forget her.

I understand you are new, but if you want to change, you will need to completely rethink things. This whole mindset you have will be absolutely poisonus to you.

 

[Dannyrt34]

I'm sorry to say that it appears everyone is right. She is not interested, but that's why were here to help.

Those e-mails you sent her are WAY TOO business-like. If I got that in my inbox, I would think it's one of the many junk, advertisement e-mails that everyone loves so dearly. Why should she have a reason to call you? So you can discuss resumes and interviews? You need to give her a reason to want to talk to you.

You never made her FEEL you. She felt like she was talking to a telemarketer or something. Girls love emotions, make her feel them. Ask her questions that interest her. You need to be a little bit more personable with her. Ask her what she did today, then go deeper with the questions making her dig inside her head and let her spill her guts, or feelings, with you.

It doesn't appear that you can salvage anything with this girl, but take it as a lesson and you'll get better.

Oh and for an example, the first time when she responded to you. Was when you said that she looked like somebody you saw on yahoo. She probably thought it was funny (even though you may not have intended it to be). She felt humored, so she responded.

 

[Your_Royal_Flyness]

My dude...never take THAT LONG to move from an email to a phone conversation. Its that simple. The longer you keep it "electronic" the more time you are wasting. You should have her in email/myspace for no longer than 1-2 days (or 6 message exchanges).

You also need to do a better job of creating attraction. The the others said, your emails are too long and business like. You need to get her to talking about herself, how she's been and what's life like, and eventually to how she's changed and even what she looks like now. (This is how you can get the conversation SEMI-sexual).

As soon as a chick says or even hints at not being interested, move on. You sound too needy. Your remedy in this situation is to approach more females (online and in person), be more comfortable with yourself, and display that confidence.