"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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You do not NEED pvssies.

When you really understand that, most of your problem with women will vanish.

Same thing applies for money, friends, status, power, and anything of that kind.

:D:D:D
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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That is definitely one strong train of thought that can be found here. And part 2 of the summary says that because you don't need them, women will sense it and flock to you.

Really, a LOT of game seems to be based around the idea of demonstrating that you don't need them. My personal opinion is that while this is fine in and of itself, that alone is not going to attract women.
 

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zekko said:
That is definitely one strong train of thought that can be found here. And part 2 of the summary says that because you don't need them, women will sense it and flock to you.

Really, a LOT of game seems to be based around the idea of demonstrating that you don't need them. My personal opinion is that while this is fine in and of itself, that alone is not going to attract women.
You want and desire them. You don't need them.
 

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The Simple Man said:
You do not NEED pvssies.

When you really understand that, most of your problem with women will vanish.

Same thing applies for money, friends, status, power, and anything of that kind.

:D:D:D
:up: It's really that simple lol - just learn how to enjoy life for what it is, nothing else matters.
 
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zekko said:
That is definitely one strong train of thought that can be found here. And part 2 of the summary says that because you don't need them, women will sense it and flock to you.

Really, a LOT of game seems to be based around the idea of demonstrating that you don't need them. My personal opinion is that while this is fine in and of itself, that alone is not going to attract women.
Actually, part 2 says that because you don't need them, it does not matter whether they are attracted to you or not. :)
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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I sort of disagree, although I understand your point. That is almost a Buddhist way of living, "do not be attached to anything" "desire causes suffering" etc. You do need friends by the way, and while you don´t need a lot of things in your life, many things will make your life better, women for instance, also money.

While you don´t need women in terms of survival, you do need them for having a true fulfilling live. And of course I´m talking about a good woman, yes they exist for anyone who leaves their house.

The problem here, and what I´ve seen quite a few times, is that many guys on the boards, are not outgoing, have very few friends, and their experience to women is likely to be zero. And make their opinions about women, reading sites like this, where the majority of men are unsuccessful. Then the message is spread like a virus.

Honestly I bet none of my friends knows anything like this, I just have to much free time at the moment. It´s very unlikely to see someone successful with women here.

And of course, in a place where guys are failures with women, the thoughts about them are not good. People are treated in accordance to their status, a doctor is treated much better than the guy who works at Mcdonalds, and guys who spend much time online and have few friends, are not considered high value for most people.... So yes, it will problematic for most to get women...
 
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JdelaSilviera said:
I sort of disagree, although I understand your point. That is almost a Buddhist way of living, "do not be attached to anything" "desire causes suffering" etc. You do need friends by the way, and while you don´t need a lot of things in your life, many things will make your life better, women for instance, also money.

While you don´t need women in terms of survival, you do need them for having a true fulfilling live. And of course I´m talking about a good woman, yes they exist for anyone who leaves their house.

The problem here, and what I´ve seen quite a few times, is that many guys on the boards, are not outgoing, have very few friends, and their experience to women is likely to be zero. And make their opinions about women, reading sites like this, where the majority of men are unsuccessful. Then the message is spread like a virus.

Honestly I bet none of my friends knows anything like this, I just have to much free time at the moment. It´s very unlikely to see someone successful with women here.

And of course, in a place where guys are failures with women, the thoughts about them are not good. People are treated in accordance to their status, a doctor is treated much better than the guy who works at Mcdonalds, and guys who spend much time online and have few friends, are not considered high value for most people.... So yes, it will problematic for most to get women...
So...?
 

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So... although you don´t need a particular woman you still need women for a good life.

Thinking you don´t need anything in this life, friends, women, money, success etc. is a good thinking for failures, who aren´t able to achieve anything, but it´s still a self deception. Remember I´m talking about having a good life, not mere survival... If you had at any time in your life women throwing themselves at you, you know it´s not remotely comparable being bad or good with women in term of overall happiness.
 
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So... although you don´t need a particular woman you still need women for a good life.

Thinking you don´t need anything in this life, friends, women, money, success etc. is a good thinking for failures, who aren´t able to achieve anything, but it´s still a self deception. Remember I´m talking about having a good life, not mere survival... If you had at any time in your life women throwing themselves at you, you know it´s not remotely comparable being bad or good with women in term of overall happiness.
1.The man, who lives a good life, will have women come to him.

2.The man, who gets women, is considered as living a good life.

I choose 1. It seems easier for me. But if you wants to do it the other way, it is up to you. To each his own :D
 

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I would say that you don't need any particular woman, but women can be a rewarding adjunct in life.

If you convey that you don't need any particular women, your self-consciousness disappears, you stop second-guessing yourself, and you are FREE to live up to your potential without the shackles that most men carry around with them.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Atom Smasher said:
I would say that you don't need any particular woman, but women can be a rewarding adjunct in life.

If you convey that you don't need any particular women, your self-consciousness disappears, you stop second-guessing yourself, and you are FREE to live up to your potential without the shackles that most men carry around with them.

very true. i have to admit, i am still in the process of getting rid of those shackles. it is a long and hard process. i don't depend on any particular woman anymore. but many times i do find myself looking at me with a woman's perspective. "if i do this or that, how would that affect how women see me"
 

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JdelaSilviera said:
I sort of disagree, although I understand your point. That is almost a Buddhist way of living, "do not be attached to anything" "desire causes suffering" etc. You do need friends by the way, and while you don´t need a lot of things in your life, many things will make your life better, women for instance, also money.

While you don´t need women in terms of survival, you do need them for having a true fulfilling live. And of course I´m talking about a good woman, yes they exist for anyone who leaves their house.

The problem here, and what I´ve seen quite a few times, is that many guys on the boards, are not outgoing, have very few friends, and their experience to women is likely to be zero. And make their opinions about women, reading sites like this, where the majority of men are unsuccessful. Then the message is spread like a virus.

Honestly I bet none of my friends knows anything like this, I just have to much free time at the moment. It´s very unlikely to see someone successful with women here.

And of course, in a place where guys are failures with women, the thoughts about them are not good. People are treated in accordance to their status, a doctor is treated much better than the guy who works at Mcdonalds, and guys who spend much time online and have few friends, are not considered high value for most people.... So yes, it will problematic for most to get women...
You're looking at it wrong. The mindset OP is talking about doesn't mean acting like you don't need anything. "I'm not talking to females, socializing, trying to find a good job etc. because I don't need anything!" It means being content with who you are. It means not falling apart and being depressed just because you don't have women. It means not reeking with neediness every time you talk to a woman. It means living your life; socializing and flirting with women, but not expecting anything from them, not having to pursue them, just giving good feelings because you want to. The great irony is that you'll have far more women with this mindset than ever before, and if not you're content anyways because you don't have to have them :yes:
 

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How about me, Atom. :woo:
One does not need pvssy.

But one does need validation from other posters, it seems. :nervous:
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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One does not need pvssy.

But one does need validation from other posters, it seems. :nervous:
No user, if I don't get it, I'm still content with myself. :)
 
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