"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
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- Thread starter hobokeni
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"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
many traders/investors short the market
sometimes the down moves are very fast for quick profit.
OzyBoy said:I was thinking about buying some certain stock earlier this year but decided not to at the last minute. Ahhhh!! It is up about 250%. :cuss:
Unless you read it wrong. I trade Forex. Its already random enough. The stock market?? Forget about it. Especially with the commissions involved and the unpredictable fluctuations now.hobokeni said:buy and hold is not the only way
many traders/investors short the market
sometimes the down moves are very fast for quick profit.
ready123
Master Don Juan
"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
ready123 said:Buy BAC and wait for it to go back up to 50
Some of us don't have 40 years to wait for this to happen :crackup:
short term traders historically have the least return on the investment in the long run when compared to any other type of investor ( U cal Berkley study if anyone cares...too lazy to dig up the research) including people who put their money into mutual funds.speakeasy said:I wish I was good at this stuff. In the meantime, I'll just have to work for my money.
ready123
Master Don Juan
you could've bought BAC when it was at 3 back in Feb and today it hit 15. 5 bagger. even if you bought last Monday, it was at 12. 25% gain in a weekWiesman44 said:Some of us don't have 40 years to wait for this to happen :crackup:
I don't give a fvck if it hits 50 or not, which it will when the economy gets healthy, but I'll be surprised if it doesn't hit 30 by next year. 100% gain is fine with me
easy money if you're not daytrading
"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"
Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.
dont listen to TV
its all free on tv cnbc isnt it ??
Price is what you pay ,value is what you get
dont be the one left holding bag,
there are few good chinese companys with growth rate
not in US many company have high multiples p/e and overvalued on fundamentals,
big boys are dumping now
ready123 said:you could've bought BAC when it was at 3 back in Feb and today it hit 15. 5 bagger. even if you bought last Monday, it was at 12. 25% gain in a week
I don't give a fvck if it hits 50 or not, which it will when the economy gets healthy, but I'll be surprised if it doesn't hit 30 by next year. 100% gain is fine with me
easy money if you're not daytrading
Which is why the price is taking a dive. But it depends if you're a long term investor or short term. Also, BAC is pretty overvalued.hobokeni said:This is not time to buy
dont listen to TV
its all free on tv cnbc isnt it ??
Price is what you pay ,value is what you get
dont be the one left holding bag,
there are few good chinese companys with growth rate
not in US many company have high multiples p/e and overvalued on fundamentals,
big boys are dumping now
cordoncordon
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Now dont think its that easy and please dont take what I said as bragging. Trust me ive lost plenty of money in the market before I started making it. Ive been trading since I was 15, am now 35, and the first 3 times I put money into an account, I lost it all. You just need to get experience. But like I said it can be done.
Anyway, if you need any advice or help, let me know. I can always point out some things. Or if you want in my stock group, let me know as well.
1. If you're in college right now, take Financial Markets at your econ department. At some schools it's called Money and Banking. I thought I knew about markets going in, and then I realized that I still have a lot more to learn.
2. Read Fooled by Randomness.
3. If you're serious about making this into a profession, head over to the forum Wall Street Oasis. There's lots of crap on the internet about investments or trying to get a job as a finance professional, but those guys are very legit. In my opinion, I'd highly recommend getting a job at a proprietary trading firm like Optiver, First New York, ect., or the sales & trading desk of an investment bank than working at a chop shop or trading your own capital (unless you REALLY know what you are doing and aren't just plain lucky).
I wanted to jump in but everyone says get a feel for it first so I'm only paper trading although I did use the amount of money I had in the bank to buy in instead of the $100,000 they give you. For my first stock, I just took Warren Buffet's info on buy what you know.
http://tinypic.com/r/dmbn89/3
that was kinda lucky considering the lack of fundamental analysis I did but Now I got how to read stocks and chart on them and alla that good stuff.
To the OP, as for shorting the market. If you know something I don't go for it, but to my knowledge it is a bull summer and coming off the best continuous period in the last year...
"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.
ready123
Master Don Juan
great bookEvzone said:2. Read Fooled by Randomness.
yeah, I don't get the insistence on shorting either, unless maybe you're daytrading or know a specific industry that's going down. it's gonna be a bull summer with a few pullbacksmacallik said:To the OP, as for shorting the market. If you know something I don't go for it, but to my knowledge it is a bull summer and coming off the best continuous period in the last year...
personally I think if you're doing long term and willing to hold for a couple years if you have to, this sht is not all that complicated. I put myself through grad school by playing semi equipment: AMAT and KLAC. Before the recession, AMAT cycled between 15 and 20 and KLAC between 30 and 50. Why? Because of this thing called Moore's Law that refreshed the product cycle for semis every 16 months and the fact both companies have stable market share. That's all I had to know and I bought and sold accordingly
AAPL is releasing a tablet in September (other OEM's put their tablets on hold because they're scared) and everyone knows how good AAPL is creating market share out of thin air. If that tablet catches on, that stock is rising. If it doesn't, that stock is still rising because the economy is getting better
As for BAC, common sense tells me financials will rise as the economy gets better. If BAC, with govt intervention, new leadership, and new assets, takes 40 years to hit 50, that means China took over as the world hegemony and we're all screwed. And if you wanna talk about stock being overvalued, GOOG has been overvalued for the past half a decade
Oh yea? I saw a story on CNBC yesterday about how tablets are being introduced for free in a handful popular universities across the country, and how they end up saving students 30-50% on their books. The idea of tablets selling well does make the assumption that Americans have a predisposition to reading that I don't quite agree with but I'll have to keep an eye out on the situation sommore...ready123 said:AAPL is releasing a tablet in September (other OEM's put their tablets on hold because they're scared) and everyone knows how good AAPL is creating market share out of thin air. If that tablet catches on, that stock is rising. If it doesn't, that stock is still rising because the economy is getting better
The reason I was attracted to AAPL was the market share as well as how they run shop. They aren't content with their product being first... instead they want their product to be first, last year's model to be 2nd and the spin-off product to be third like they did with their IPods. And the marketing campaign against Microsoft has definitely made them the popular trendier company in the computer world. Right now, anything with the AAPL symbol in it can sell itself.
In the phone world there seems to be more competition. Like where i'm from, blackberry msngr is the sh!t. Everyone got their pin's on fb and it is like an exclusive club thing that the whole hood is involved in. However, the newer phones may offer better technical specs or programs, but they don't have the power behind the name that AAPL does. The average consumer doesn't care that Google's phone is more powerful or that the new Palm Pre is gonna be something to marvel, they want the phone their friend has at a cheap price and AAPL is doin that.
Not likely. The iPhone is a premium product.macallik said:they want the phone their friend has at a cheap price and AAPL is doin that.