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Social circle vs Cold approach( Post college Age )

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You did mention that outdoor approaches are more logistically difficult if you are riding a bike and the lady is walking with earbuds on.
Obviously you walk rather than using a bike.
I am a biker. It would be better for Game if I were a "biker" in the sense of riding a motorcycle than riding a regular bicycle. Bicycle riding is only good for Game in the sense that it enhances your fitness level. Every other fitness activity is second to weight lifting. Weight lifting must be #1. It's good to slot in some other activities besides weight lifting.

If I am riding my bicycle on a path that co-exists with pedestrians, it's possible to combine a bicycle riding session with approaches. If you see a hottie walking, you can pull up in front of her and take a water break so that you'll make eye contact and deliver an opener to her. I've done that. Another way that I've combined my bicycle with approaches is lingering in a parking lot on my bike and waiting for approaches. I've also gotten in a few approaches while parking my car in a parking lot beside a path and seeing a hottie in a sports bra.

Very few women are bicycle riders in my observation. Male cyclists tend to outnumber female cyclists at least 8 to 1, if not 10 to 1.

It's still way easier to do path approaching on foot than on a bike. On foot, you can do the classic PUA maneuver of running up beside her, turning around and doing the approach/stop. That's not my favorite way to do approaches on paths. I like to linger at rest areas on paths and approach whatever traffic comes by there. It looks more natural but it's a planned approach session. I can think of a time where I did an approach at a rest area on a path and the woman texted me after the fact that she thought it was so great that I met her in such an unexpected way. It was only unexpected for her. I met her during a planned approach session. She was also mid-20s at that time in the 2010s when I did that approach and I was over 30. I was a substantially older guy and I impressed an in-demand woman with my bold stranger approach. That wouldn't have happened if I were just another electronic penis in her swipe app queue or social media DMs.

I never said there was an alternative but other posters have made other suggestions. I just said if you can not afford the time to do cold approaches then you won't be able to do cold approaches.
That's cap. That's a weak excuse. If getting laid is a priority, then a man will find a way to approach strangers and get vagina.

Besides, what else could be more important than getting vagina? I realize that some men need to have jobs in order to afford housing to have a place to have sex. Besides that, nothing else is more important. If a job requires too many hours, change jobs to a less demanding one. We don't live to work, we work to live. A lot of careerist women miss this point too. Trying to sequence multiple early stage dates with a career first woman is a massive headache and not worth it. Career first women usually make bad girlfriends and later bad wives for the men blue pill/beta enough to bail them out from spinsterhood, boxed wines, and multiple cats. I digress.

When I have had a sexual need, nothing has mattered more than getting laid. Other elements of my life are designed to support my need to get laid.

This is something that may work for 20 year olds or people who are 6-7 Normie-tiers, however, for sub-5s (ie which you admitted you are not and therefore can't possibily have an experience of a sub-5), no porn/fap urgency means having the police called on you, or worst, ending up in jail with a rape (likely false one) allegation from a lady who got creeped out that you approached her and wants to make trouble for you. Therefore, anyone going on photoreeler and doesn't at least have a 7 score, should see cold approach as dangerous because you might get a crazy Karen that calls the police on you because you are not good looking enough.
I have done some photo ratings and scored between 6.5-7.5. I'm not quite an upper tier male. I'm a solid normal range male.

Being in the normal range, even at the higher end of the normal, isn't that great of a deal either.

I'm good enough looking and carry myself with enough confidence that I won't get police called on me for non-bar approaches on paths or in retail venues. However, that doesn't me I'm guaranteed to get dates or vagina from non-bar approaches. In order to do that, I must demonstrate enough value AND find a woman in the market for some new penis AND she must find me physically attractive. That's not easy to do.

When I have done outdoor approaches on paths, in parks, and on the street, most of the approaches have gone nowhere. Most of the time, the woman is wearing earbuds and is oblivious to my existence. Some of these women wearing earbuds have boyfriends and are not looking for new penis, but some of them are actually available and are some combination of socially inept or not interested in my physique. I would like to think that they are more socially inept than not interested in my physical look. I won't generally approach women wearing earbuds though I'll give them good body language in an attempt to fish for IOIs. If I get good IOIs back, I'll approach. This is split second instinct. If a woman isn't wearing earbuds, which has been rare for the last 5-10 years on paths/outdoors, I have more freedom to do a verbal approach. I'll stop women based on whatever I observe. A lot of these conversations don't go more than 30-60 seconds, which isn't long enough to determine if a date offer/number exchange is worthwhile. If a woman can't be bothered to spend more than 30-60 seconds with me, what makes me think she'll be down for 1-2 hour first date in a bar? I need at least a minute conversation to determine this.

Indoor retail venues are better. Earbuds are rare in the indoor retail venue setting, though in the 2nd half of the 2010s, I started seeing more earbuds in the grocery store, which I attributed to women wanting to avoid getting approached in the grocery store. I have seen fewer women wearing earbuds in the grocery store since the pandemic hit, but indoor masking essentially ruined indoor retail approaching for a while. It's been starting to come back slowly in the last 6 months.

Indoor masking was bad for indoor retail game because one of the better mechanisms in approaching in retail settings was the eye contact and smile maneuver. That entails a man making strong eye contact and smiling a woman and seeing if she holds eye contact and smiles back. If she does this, she's inviting an approach. Those approaches are more worthwhile to do. Anyway, with indoor masking, you don't get the smile back because of the mask. Also, non-verbal cues are strained with masks and masks represent the idea that people are diseased. None of this promotes a healthy approaching environment.

Wheat Waffles has a dating flowchart that is useful for what people are best positioned to do based upon their looks rating.


Therefore, to the sub-5s and Chads/Chadlites, explain how more "motivation" would make any difference? One end of the spectrum would just invite legal trouble or worst, and the other end of the spectrum have women going all over them anyway whether they are into that or not.
Your question makes no sense. Sub-5's, Normie tier men, and Chads experience the mating environment differently.

The best thing for a sub 5 to do is enhance his looks. That's what Wheat Waffles says in the video.

A normie tier guy also has room to improve looks too.

An upper tier guy, or Chad, is set on looks. He can do mostly whatever he wants.

No porn/no fap makes sense for all 3 tiers. No porn and no fap does help make a man more horny and more motivated to make bold approaches. That's going to be better for normal range men and upper tier men. For Sub 5's, they still might be perceived as creepy, but they'd be perceived as creepy if they were OnlyFans simps or frequent porno tube site masturbators anyway. Even plenty of normie tier guys are OnlyFans simps and frequent porno tube site masturbators.
 

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No porn/no fap makes sense for all 3 tiers. No porn and no fap does help make a man more horny and more motivated to make bold approaches. That's going to be better for normal range men and upper tier men. For Sub 5's, they still might be perceived as creepy, but they'd be perceived as creepy if they were OnlyFans simps or frequent porno tube site masturbators anyway. Even plenty of normie tier guys are OnlyFans simps and frequent porno tube site masturbators.
The rest of your post is noted. Its really good information so there is nothing to really to for purposes of discussion unless anyone wants to add any nuances to what you've already posted.

However, I some of the points you are making here do not make logical sense. Chads/Chadlites aren't referenced. Normies, is fair enough as you are a normie mid-tier. But you acknowledge sub-5s will be perceived as creepy if they make bold moves. I don't get the rest of your logic because I could say that sub-5s are creepy because of their looks not because they watch porn and a Chad/Chadlite is attractive to women because of his looks, not becasue he looks at porn! In both cases looks rather than private activity seems to be the big issue of desirability.

Also, its high-stakes if a lady perceives you as creepy as you can have the police called on you, face human resources at work, or end up in further trouble than if you did not do an approach. You've already had one thread where someone had an interaction with the police and your only response is that it never happened to you. Oh, and by the way, if you are going to go with THAT crazy logic, nobody is going to call the police for someone watching porn, so that's apples and oranges.
 

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If a job requires too many hours, change jobs to a less demanding one. We don't live to work, we work to live. A lot of careerist women miss this point too.
It's not that simple, sometimes you have to take whatever you can get. Also they don't pay enough on welfare to quit working and cold approach.
 
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