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So What Kind of Women Do "Intellectual" Men Often End Up With?

Frank2500

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It's been said on this board, and there's some evidence to that in the dating game, that many women who consider themselves high on the physical attractive ladder, as well as by men, are often not very bright and seldom hold intelligent, decent conversations. In that light, I was wondering if folks on here have ideas about what kinds of women the so-called "intellectual men" (college professors, teachers, writers/novelists) tend to get with and where they find their future wives. I'm just curious because most of the women who've hit on me have tended to be for example, sixth to eighth grade teachers, high school teachers, etc. and most of them were very pretty, open-minded and down to earth. I wish I knew of any sure places where I could meet lady teachers in this damn city of Philadelphia. Interestingly, teachers, despite being intelectual, seem to have quite some spicy dating lives.
 

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I meet smart, hot women. I meet dumb, hot women. I meet high class, hot women. I meet trailor trash, hot women.

From my viewpoint, the older women get, the more likely the intelligent ones will still be good looking. The ones who don't take care of themselves, will fall apart faster on average. Their teeth, their skin, or something will give.

If you go look at college professors on any big campus, some of them should be hawties. If you go look at rich men's wives, some of them should be hawties. If you look around the trailor park, some of them should be hawties.

I really don't find that any one certain type of man is going to "have all the hawties" at all. There are some professions, personality types, etc. that I do think more hawties tend to be interested in, but nothing is absolute and many bridges will arrive at the same side of the river.

The best place to start for any man, IMO, is to remove as many insecurities as possible. Clearing the insecurities, I have found, is a surefire way to attract more hawties.

In answer to your question, don't trust my judgement, go see who bankers, professors, attorneys, etc are with. Also see who trailor park guys are with. Then see who ghetto guys are with . An excellent way to do this is to go to a busy mall, granted you may not know everything about the people and you can't always be sure who is romantically involved, but it should give you a clear picture that all kinds of men end up with all kinds of women.
 

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Great response and very insightful. Thanks. I appreciate it.
 

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Frank2500 said:
It's been said on this board, and there's some evidence to that in the dating game, that many women who consider themselves high on the physical attractive ladder, as well as by men, are often not very bright and seldom hold intelligent, decent conversations. In that light, I was wondering if folks on here have ideas about what kinds of women the so-called "intellectual men" (college professors, teachers, writers/novelists) tend to get with and where they find their future wives. I'm just curious because most of the women who've hit on me have tended to be for example, sixth to eighth grade teachers, high school teachers, etc. and most of them were very pretty, open-minded and down to earth. I wish I knew of any sure places where I could meet lady teachers in this damn city of Philadelphia. Interestingly, teachers, despite being intelectual, seem to have quite some spicy dating lives.
I wouldn't exactly call teachers "intellectual." Some teachers I've met have been pretty stupid. Just 'cause someone's a teacher doesn't mean they're smart. Take that blond woman who slept with that 14 year old boy - she comes across as being dumb as a post. All you need is a 4 year degree and 1 year in a teaching program to become a teacher.

There is an article on sisuave about this very subject, however: "Why Very Intelligent Men Fail With Women

I think a lot of so-called intelligent men fail with women because they look at at as a math equation or something. I know I fall into this category and I'm learning from some guys that are either average or below average intelligence. The article goes into this by asking who would you rather have with you if you were stranded in the wilderness, a Phd, or a caveman? The right answer would be a caveman because he knows how to survive. And this also applies to women. Smarts can sometimes be a great hinderance. The article will show you why.


~~~~2cirius~~~~
 

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You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Thanks, 2cirius. I actually did read that article and it was quite interesting.
 

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Bible_Belt said:
Intellectual men often meet their future wives while both of them are in college or grad school together.
Too true. True of myself and the majority of people I know in academia.
 

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Nothing wrong with being an intellectual :). just dont count on it making you a pimp all by itself
 
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