SMV may only be relevant for a short period of time

[jhonny9546]

Many of you probably already know that there are objective factors that define attraction between men and women, such as SMV, grooming, fitness, and health, especially height for men and youth or fertility for women.
That said, you still might wonder why there are so many “unbalanced” couples with very different SMVs: tall women with shorter men, overweight or bald men with supermodels, etc..

Beyond obvious explanations like sugar daddies or betabux dynamics, there are other reasons for this: subjective factors in attraction.
I don’t know how many there are in total, but I can list the ones that have always mattered to me in deciding whether to sleep with or fall in love with a woman: her voice and how she speaks, how the muscles of her face moves, so her expressions, how she moves, how she listens and interacts, how she touches me, and how she smells.


What do you notice? These are all physical, sensory experiences that require physical presence to truly happen.
This explains why many online dating dates end unexpectedly, like when two people seem to connect right away phisically, but their online chat what something "boring" or feeling "disconnected".
This is why for some couples SMV don't play a definitiv role, but "smell" may actually do instead.

 

[MatureDJ]

Human sex pheromones - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[jhonny9546]

Human sex pheromones - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Yes, I mean, that's one of your senses.
But I was surprised when a woman who had a crush on me introduced me to her sister, and she also developed a crush.
Since their age is quite similar, I would have some traits from their imprinting.

 

[BaronOfHair]

It's all but impossible to read or hear the acronym SMV without thinking about The DMV immediately afterwards. Like most jargon(Be it Manosphere, Intersectionalist, or Corporate), it's tough to not yearn for times when that crud hadn't become pervasive in all corners of our society

 

[Scaramouche]

Hi Jhohny,
Your thoughts on subliminal attraction through scent is interesting...I have recently read that couples are attracted by complementary immune systems,which can be detected through scent...Which means that their immune systtems together,create a more complete whole...During Covid I noticed that when one partner in a committed relationship succumbed to Covid the other often didn't...Food for thought?

 

[justaroundthecorner]

90% of communication goes w/o a word being spoken while you know perfectly well whether someone is sexually attractive for you in a matter of the first 30s of interaction.

I think this website has too many overintellectualized topics in 2025 - online chat for messaging in any dating app is first and foremost for setting date ASAP not for going with any prolonged discussion as it kills attraction.

Good opener, couple of messages to check her IL and then go to date. That's how it works the best (it is also aligned with "green lights" rule).

 

[Hal9000]

I've connected with numerous women online, and great rapport with them in a texting environment, only to meet up with them and not enjoyed their company at all. Some people are just better communicators via text where they can parse every response and dont have to be particularly quick on their feet or witty relative to being so in person. Wasn't really any kind of subtle or subliminal thing.

 

[jhonny9546]

I'm glad you're also noticing this in your experiences.