"The Kiss of Death Mistake"

You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?

Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.

One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.

Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.

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situation w/girl that makes you go hmmm (advice?)

md3sign

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K soo I met this girl a few days ago from the internet. We talked through email for about a week and I mentioned I was leaving for vacation so if she wanted to meet up before the year was over she'd have to make it quick.

WELL, here's what went down:

-she owns her own condo, which is DAMN nice
-she's a nurse, and is more or less loaded
-she's very clean and her place was spotless everywhere and very classy
-she can cook
-she took the day off from work to cook me some of her dishes
-we had dinner, 2 bottles of wine, and then I hit it for a few hours (all at her place)

.... moving along:

-this girl is TOTALLY into me, she won't leave me alone
-she's got a really hot face and natural DDs
-she's kinda freaky (gave me head without asking, talking some dirty sh!t, has a huge collection of lingerie you normally wouldn't wear)
-she's definitely willing to please and really has her sh!t together

anyway .. here's the dilemma I'm having:

everything I've described up to this point would probably make you want to f her brains out nonstop. well I have that opportunity. but there's a problem:

she's overweight

I mean .. she can lose some pounds. it's not just some tummy chub. she's overweight. she showed me pics of her fam and her mom is pretty big too, so there's definitely a genetic predisposition

now she did ask me for help with a workout routine, and I have faith she could get serious and lose a lot of pounds and what not, but do you think it's worth it?

I mean, she has a LONG way to go. if she lost the weight I would hard as steel just thinking about her, but that's a big if.

I got plenty of time to think it over (I'm on vacation until january so I don't have to make up excuses for not coming over/etc). this could be a damn good plate, but the weight issue is kinda getting between things.

but the head was awesome :box:

so what do you guys think?
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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md3sign said:
...this could be a damn good plate,
Only if Ms. Chubby leaves anything on the plate!!:rolleyes:

md3sign said:
,,,but the weight issue is kinda getting between things.
Yeah, like between you and the house next door!:rolleyes:

Seriously though, you obviously got excited so I don't see the problem.
 

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I say if you're enjoying f****** her, then you don't need our approval. Continue that. Now fatties aren't my type, but if you like it, who am i to judge?

As for taking on the job (training her), just say no. Why waste time and effort trying to fix one when you can simply just go get another girl that has what you want now? Unfortunately for her, there is another woman out there that has just what you want.
 

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I got excited because I had booze and well .. most people get excited when they get head.



azanon - the problem is none of the other thin girls I know/have met go out of their way or have any ambitions or any of that. but I guess it could just be because heavier/not-so-pretty people have to work harder? hmm
 

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md3sign, being a bodybuilder and being built, obviously the chubbys are gonna treat you like a GOD. I think you could do better thana chubby, but if it's fine with you, cool. Btw, I live in KY too. You ever been to the Newport Aquarium? I went there before when i was up in Newport.
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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Yeah if she is 20-30 pounds overweight that is ok. But anything more than that forget about it...
 

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man u dont meet one of those everyday.
She has everything together.
U r lucky that shes just overweight, thats something she can change.
Some women has some pretty fked up sht that they cant change.
My advice is-stay, help change her into the woman of your dreams.
gud luck
 

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ryannath said:
md3sign, being a bodybuilder and being built, obviously the chubbys are gonna treat you like a GOD. I think you could do better thana chubby, but if it's fine with you, cool. Btw, I live in KY too. You ever been to the Newport Aquarium? I went there before when i was up in Newport.
haha now how do I get the HB10's to treat me like a GOD? :rockon:


yea I've been to the aquarium, it's neat but waaay overpriced for the experience
 

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If she makes you happy in all aspects then stay.

While we would all prefer to have an HB10 on our arm, if this girl makes you happy, forget everyone else, and stay with her.

If it were my call, atleast in the short run, nect 1-3 months, stay with her. Help her exercise/diet, and see if she commits, if she does they you're set.


-E.Nigma
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Dude,

Two days a week on your off-days take her to the gym (a different gym then your main one would be wise) and do FAT burning cardio with her for 45 minutes. Tell her to buy LIPO-6 too and take 2 of those each morning and 1 in the afternoon. In about 4 months, she'll be 20-30 pounds lighter if she adds 3 more days a week to her cardio and cleans up her eating. I help people drop weight in my gym all the time. TRUE FATTIES. Mold this girl into what you want, get her ADDICTED to healthy eating and cardio. She will become your love-slave.
 

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I'd echo Charm, give it a go. Sure what have you got to lose? Its rare enough to find a girl with the qualities you list. I've seen some girls with good looks treat their bfs like ****. I can actually see them thinking "At least her tits are big". I'd say losing weight is a far easier thing than converting a *****y girl into one who respects you.
 

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I just checked out your myspace.....you deserve better. Unless you truley like her than its nothing to even question.....do what YOU want to do.
 

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Charm that's a good point. pvf like you and others have said I know I can pull a girl who's more physically attractive from the get-go and if it wasn't for all the other perks I wouldn't think twice about this. I do want to be a personal trainer at some point in my life so this might make a good project if she follows through.
 

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md3sign,

It might be a good project but just be sure its what you really want to do. It's a lot to invest in someone this early on. My actual advice is to remain independent and create a workout schedule for her, take her to the gym at the most for the first two weeks to get the wheels rolling and then encourage her to stick to the schedule. You take her twice the first week but have her set to go 4 times a week. By the third week she's doing it all on her own. Tell her to get an IPOD or whatever to listen to while she does it.

Remember though that this is doing a lot and should only be considered if you are REALLY looking to LTR this girl and even so, its a lot to invest so i'd be careful. You have your own life but if you can find a learning experience here that you greatly value from then it may be worth the investment.

Do however set a goal to approach at least 1 new woman a week that you are attracted to, put yourself in a sexual state by thinking on the onset "I want to F* you" and allow yourself to get to know her, get her number and build experience. You're making huge progress so keep it up, the learning curve is steep but pays off.
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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Set an alarm to wake her up for joging while you go back to sleep.
 

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^^ Me laugh and likey.
 

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Charm - I know what you're saying. I'm not planning on investing much time at all. I'll go with her twice or so to show her proper form on excersizes, but then she's on her own. If she puts effort into it I'll help her out, if not that's cool too. And don't worry about me meeting other girls, already got that taken care of. I'm on vacation after all :D

amoka - lol
 

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Once you think you got your game tight, go to all the tanning salons in town and pick up the girls there. If you got real skills, get them to show you the tanning beds personally and then open them up while they are selling you on tanning. Get their numbers, leave. :)
 
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