"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Single after a 2.5 year relationship - Already playing but need practice

I-am-someone

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It's been a long time since I visited this forum. It's amazing how much I've learnt since I left this place.

Let me start off with my new situation. I broke up with my girlfriend of 2.5 years about 3 weeks ago. Tonight is the first night since I moved her out from my place yesterday. The reason I broke up with her is basically that she was psychotic and bad for me. I kept on wanting the sex more than was good for me, and she kept me insanely busy with hordes of problems that weren't really worth any of my time in retrospect.

During our 2.5 year relationship, I've slept with at least 8 different women. Usually during times when she was out of town or when I was on holiday. Basically I never considered her worthy enough not to cheat. Actually, pretty much all of the women were more attractive than my ex-girlfriend.

Since last time I was on here I graduated, I started my own company, I've traveled the world, I've grown a lot. I'm a catch to most women, except that I'm poor, nearly homeless and still work about 60 hours per week without getting paid even one cent. I moved to Amsterdam and I know almost no one in this entire city.


Now here is the situation: I want to get back in the game.

I've already got two girls I wouldn't mind getting with and who like me a lot as well. One is an HB8.5 with an awesome body and a cute face who just broke up with her boyfriend and nearly slept with me once already months ago, the other is an HB7 who would probably suck my d*ck if I called her but who's basically just a drunk slut. It's not good enough to focus on these two. I met them while I had a girlfriend and I've been in the friend zone for way too long, plus it's too much work for the already somewhat flaky nature of these girls.

I really have to get back out there, but I seriously have no idea where to start right now.

Dearest men of advanced skills and experience, please guide me back into game!
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Dear Someone,
"I kept on wanting the sex more than was good for me, and she kept me insanely busy with hordes of problems that weren't really worth any of my time in retrospect."I am having this same problem on a larger scale perhaps than you...I have Plates,keeps you sane,and keeps you on your toes....this is part of the answer the other is to downsize,or as some would put it right size...hard to do.
 

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I-am-someone said:
During our 2.5 year relationship, I've slept with at least 8 different women. Usually during times when she was out of town or when I was on holiday. Basically I never considered her worthy enough not to cheat. Actually, pretty much all of the women were more attractive than my ex-girlfriend.
If you slept with eight different women while you were with her, how much more practice do you need?
 

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zekko said:
If you slept with eight different women while you were with her, how much more practice do you need?
Well, the last time I slept outside of the relationship was the summer of last year. That's kind of a long time ago :(
Despite of my past conquests, my DJ skill is pretty limited. These were all one night stands and I honestly don't even know anymore what I did right back then.
My current situation however is completely different.

I'm not in an exciting place in my life, I'm in a city where I know hardly anybody, I have relatively little money and my game is ****ing awful.

You guys have any good places to start? The DJ basics are a bit limited now, but I wouldn't mind getting some reading done to get the right mindset again.
 

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It's good that you broke up with your gf. If you were unhappy enough in the relationship to cheat several times, then it's definitely time to move on.

If you hooked up with eight girls, your game can't be that bad, or even if it is, you evidently have enough in the looks department where game isn't that important.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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Hey IAS, well done on getting this far.

I notice you say that both girls you know like you a lot.
If so, then I would try and hang out with them on a regular basis, you don't have to try anything except live in the moment and aim to have fun.

If you need any more advice just post here or PM.
 

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im in same place my brotha ! im 3 days out of a 2.5 year relationship !!!!

it will ok ok bro !
 

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I-am-someone said:
I'm a catch to most women, except that I'm poor, nearly homeless and still work about 60 hours per week without getting paid even one cent.
Wow, what a catch.
 

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jjj
 

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Seems to me like you don't need any help, except maybe to question why you're working for free! Simple solution is to walk out of your front door and start meeting people. You obviously have some natural charisma or you wouldn't have had the success you already enjoyed.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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