"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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I have a possible decent chance of losing my virginity with a 7/8. Sounds like she's the kind of girl that will hook up the first date. The problem is she's 22 with 2 kids and is likely to get attached because of wanting something serious. Is the possible backlash worth it? Is this drama waiting to happen?
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Sounds like she's the kind of girl that will hook up the first date.

The problem is she's 22 with 2 kids

You know..I wrote a bunch of stuff...but screw it. Move on man. Find a girl with no kids and don't complicate a situation that is already new for you to deal with (getting laid).

If you just have to get laid by this chic, my advice is to pump her once and dump her. Because you will probably get sucked into her bullsh1t. You probably don't have the experience to deal with all of that.
 
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Well that's what I wanted to hear. Honesty.

As for getting sucked into her bs, I won't go into my life details, but let's say it would be impossible for me to be a provider. She'd have nothing to use me for and she'd quickly see that I know as much about kids as I do about the WNBA.

I don't discount the fact that since she isn't ugly and is my first, I could get attached and want a relationship with her. That's what I'm afraid of. That's honestly why I was willing to wait for a while and find some 9 or 10 that if I get attached, at least I have some HB to learn from.
 

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Well that's what I wanted to hear. Honesty.

As for getting sucked into her bs, I won't go into my life details, but let's say it would be impossible for me to be a provider. She'd have nothing to use me for and she'd quickly see that I know as much about kids as I do about the WNBA.

I don't discount the fact that since she isn't ugly and is my first, I could get attached and want a relationship with her. That's what I'm afraid of. That's honestly why I was willing to wait for a while and find some 9 or 10 that if I get attached, at least I have some HB to learn from.
If you can keep your heart in your chest, hit it for a while and move on, just remember that good pvssy can change a weak man's mind.
 
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Well I'm going on vacation in a month so it's very likely I could lose my virginity then. I just feel that it's getting in the way of my dating life. I think it's unfair pressure to put on any woman "I'm a virgin and want you to be the one to introduce me to sex" so I was kind of hoping to find a one night stand either online, through a cold approach or on vacation.
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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Well I think it's unfair pressure to put on any woman "I'm a virgin and want you to be the one to introduce me to sex"

Yah. Never say that. In fact if you have to tell a woman your a virgin, you should tell her afterwards IMO.
 

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I agree with warrior, just hit it and move on.

I tried helping a guy lose his virgininty a few weeks back, although at the time he had said he werent very experienced, and not that he had no experience. Anyway, when it came down to the crucial moment he worked himself in to such a panic that he ran out the room and sat shaking in his car for bout an hour. Since then, he hasnt been able to face me, he is really embarassed about it.

My advice would be to get it over and done with this one. Chances are the first time it wont be great and you dont want a HB10 thinking thats the best you can offer... try it out on a hb7 first.
 
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"I agree with warrior, just hit it and move on."

My last girlfriend, I fooled around with (Finger, titi f***ing, bj...never got to the sex part and I didn't force the issue because she clearly wasn't ready and not even comfortable with the fooling around she later told me) the last girl I dated and got attached, not because the fooling around was so great but because she was really pretty and a decent person. What's going to happen when I have sex?

Some people have hit it and quit it in them. That's not me.

"Anyway, when it came down to the crucial moment he worked himself in to such a panic that he ran out the room and sat shaking in his car for bout an hour."

Yeah, I'm not Jason Biggs from American Pie. I saw that girl wearing nothing but panties and was fine nervous-wise and I have no problem getting erect or getting over-aroused.

"My advice would be to get it over and done with this one. Chances are the first time it wont be great..."

I would agree if she didn't have the two kids and there's a chance of me getting attached due to the physical closeness of sex. I don't have it in me to be a replacement father ever but especially not now.
 
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